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Less than a month to go before Google breaks links to Google+ Picasa albums

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Re: Less than a month to go before Google breaks links to Google+ Picasa albums

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It's probably because by and large Amazon kills physical products and Google kills services. If someone buys a Fire Phone and it gets discontinued - well, products getting discontinued is part of life and it doesn't (usually) affect the usage of the one you have. If Google builds a web service, then that service has the chance to grow to 50m / 100m users before deciding that it is not worth supporting. Law of large n…

Wait until Amazon starts killing off some AWS services or features.

Which is likely why they have gone out of their way to not kill off AWS services.

Re: Less than a month to go before Google breaks links to Google+ Picasa albums

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Microsoft is famously unwilling to let software stop working. Picasa will probably work forever.

Dropping Win16 was a bad sign. https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2004/06/13/how-microsoft-lost... talks about the back compat faction losing power at Microsoft.

Interesting read. A lot has changed in the almost 15 years since he published it. Has he done any followups?

Re: Less than a month to go before Google breaks links to Google+ Picasa albums

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When Google will be shutting down Google Photos? Of course, it is going to happen eventually. However, I do have a dozen of photos there with no easy way to export hiqh quality photos in one go that worries me.

Exporting is easy. On desktop you can select photos and download a zip. You can also download them with Google Backup and Sync if you enable the option to show photos in Google Drive.

Re: Less than a month to go before Google breaks links to Google+ Picasa albums

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It's interesting that Amazon's approach of building products and killing them off if they don't improve the bottom line earns praise, while Google's similar one endlessly pisses people off.

Mostly because people don't really use any of the products Amazon releases at scale. There's a reason why it's called Google scale and not Amazon scale. Also because as humans, we're generally more inclined to dogpile onto the Goliath and root for the David. Underdogs almost always get treated more leniently.

>Mostly because people don't really use any of the products Amazon releases at scale.

AWS would beg to differ.

However, Amazon has been very good at not getting rid of AWS services so it's reputation is that it's at scale services are going to stay safe.

Re: Less than a month to go before Google breaks links to Google+ Picasa albums

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To be fair, I've had surprisingly good luck at searching for photos in Google Photos by text. The AI there seems pretty solid.

I've had the opposite luck. Even typing something as simple as dog misses a ton of photos with a dog in them. Perhaps I missed a switch in configuration along the way to allow aggressive AI recognition. :)

It's very inconsistent. Sometimes I search for dogs and get dog fursuiters, but not actual dogs. It does pull up fursuits if I search for them though. Shout out to the furries working on the Google Photos team.

Re: Less than a month to go before Google breaks links to Google+ Picasa albums

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Yeah, I'm often one to criticise Google, but an entirely free cloud-based photo album was never going to be around forever. If you are very concerned with keeping an online record for all time you really shouldn't be depending on free stuff like Picasa.

Hello Gmail users! :)

You really shouldn't count on having Gmail available forever!

Or even for a few years.

Re: Less than a month to go before Google breaks links to Google+ Picasa albums

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It's interesting that Amazon's approach of building products and killing them off if they don't improve the bottom line earns praise, while Google's similar one endlessly pisses people off.

> while Google's similar one endlessly pisses people off. Maybe it's because we know Google is profiting off of our private information, and we don't make a stink about that because they're giving us free stuff. But why shouldn't we be upset when they stop giving us the free stuff we like? They're still profiting off of our private information aren't they? Amazon just isn't in the same boat.

What if they simply don't profit enough to justify giving you free stuff?

Re: Less than a month to go before Google breaks links to Google+ Picasa albums

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When Google will be shutting down Google Photos? Of course, it is going to happen eventually. However, I do have a dozen of photos there with no easy way to export hiqh quality photos in one go that worries me.

Exporting is easy. On desktop you can select photos and download a zip. You can also download them with Google Backup and Sync if you enable the option to show photos in Google Drive.

There is a limit thought when I tried to export from web some time ago. It was 500-2000 photos or something.

I probably have over 30000 photos there so it's a long process to download them all.

Re: Less than a month to go before Google breaks links to Google+ Picasa albums

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Really miss picasa. I know the world is moving away from tagging your photos with descriptive words, but I still do it. As with any Picasa related subject: Does anyone have a viable alternative desktop software that allows tagging of photos, some mild editing and allowing photos to be kept in folders that are the albums.

Why isn’t there a move TO tagging photos with text? That rocks! This is all so depressing. Picasa desktop was great. They killed it. Picasa Web albums were great. They killed it. Why are they making everything worse?

Because the number of not-willing-to-pay, enthusiast, micro-managing, photo-organizing users is likely tiny, and not enough to support a product with Google costs.

The market is splitting more and more into consumers who take too many photos to organize it themselves and pros who need robust workflow management solutions.

Don't get me wrong, I loved Picasa, and was very sad when they stopped supporting.

I particularly miss some features, such as creating a time-lapse of all photos of a certain person with the face aligned, which was awesome to show how friends and kids change.

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