Cool but my thought was that load sharing between cars was caused by contended grid connection rather than anything in the supercharger itself? Having 16 * 250kW grid connection (4MW) will be super expensive (in terms of connection speed) and slow to provision in many places. It's a similar amount of power as a data centre and power connection is the slowest and hardest part of that, hence why I assumed they had lowe…
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#72250KW. JFC! That's enough to power 100 average houses, all going into one car. I'm both impressed and slightly terrified.
At 250 volts, it is only 1000 Amps. Normal houses come with 200 Amp service. Older ones may be 100 Amp, and larger modern ones are 400 Amp. So that is about 5 houses. You could buy that service. I hope Tesla would sell you the supercharger for it.
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#73Best regards Phillip
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#74250KW. JFC! That's enough to power 100 average houses, all going into one car. I'm both impressed and slightly terrified.
Have you ever considered how much chemical energy is flowing through the gas pump when you fill up a car?
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#75250KW. JFC! That's enough to power 100 average houses, all going into one car. I'm both impressed and slightly terrified.
At 250 volts, it is only 1000 Amps. Normal houses come with 200 Amp service. Older ones may be 100 Amp, and larger modern ones are 400 Amp. So that is about 5 houses. You could buy that service. I hope Tesla would sell you the supercharger for it.
400amp service is usually 2 200 amp panels.
Done with 2/0 cable. It's rarely, if ever, 1 400 amp panel.
1. There is no way you would get "1000amp service" at 250v. It would be a minimum of 480v 3 phase (and not 1000amp). You may even want a lot higher, because as you'll see, getting that many amps is ... very very hard.
2. You can't even buy 1000amp cable gauge anywhere commercially, because it would be insane.
The NEC ampacity table doesn't go anywhere near that high it tops out at 2000kcmil, 665 amp cable.
Due to various factors[1], doubling the cable mils will only get you a hundred or so amps here, so it's probably close to 4500kcmil (i'm too lazy to do the mm^2 math, it's 1.89" conductors) Which doesn't really exist for purchase (if you really needed it, you have the means to make it :P).
To try to also put the size in perspective: 2/0 cable has conductors that are about 3/8" in diameter.
2000kcmil cable, which again, tops out at 665 amps, has conductors 1.6" in diameter (they are often also segmented, so while the bare size may be 1.6" in theory, you don't find that). Generally the insulation size on them is ridiculous as well (because they are usually used for like 10kv+ applications)
[1] Current is related to surface area of conductors, or combined surface areas of all the strands in a conductor. So you'd need to double diameter, at least, to come close.
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#76Is MPH a standard way to measure EV charging speeds? Just for the sake of comparison a slow gas pump (5 gal/min.) fueling an average (25 MPG) ICE car works out to fueling at 7500 MPH.
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#77Dear Elon. Call me about setting up solar roofs in South Africa. Best regards Phillip
Whatever happened to poetic license?
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#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
At 250 volts, it is only 1000 Amps. Normal houses come with 200 Amp service. Older ones may be 100 Amp, and larger modern ones are 400 Amp. So that is about 5 houses. You could buy that service. I hope Tesla would sell you the supercharger for it.
No, you can't buy that service. Not even close. 400amp service is usually 2 200 amp panels. Done with 2/0 cable. It's rarely, if ever, 1 400 amp panel. 1. There is no way you would get "1000amp service" at 250v. It would be a minimum of 480v 3 phase (and not 1000amp). You may even want a lot higher, because as you'll see, getting that many amps is ... very very hard. 2. You can't even buy 1000amp cable gauge anywhere…
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#79Tesla Model S owner here. By choosing spots and times strategically I've gotten nearly 400MPH charging at the existing stations and the difference it makes to convenience is amazing. Super looking forward to 1000MPH! At that rate I can likely make it to Squamish BC, from Seattle, and back, with only one ~20 minute charge in between. That's still about 4x or 5x for the time I would spend filling an ICE car, but gettin…
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#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
His companies delivered, not him alone. Take nothing away from the man though, he works insane hours.
Yeh but you got to hire a good team and he really does that