Live data from Hacker News

Websites using SSAI (server side ad injection)

github.com

71–75 of 75 posts

Re: Websites using SSAI (server side ad injection)

#71
post #51

In the end, websites will just be server-side generated images. :D

And then Adblockers will convert it back to html and strip ads from it.

Please let me know how to convert images to HTML & how adblockers know what part of it is an ad.

That cannot be done reliably without machine learning.

Re: Websites using SSAI (server side ad injection)

#72

I get the distinct impression, in the war of ads vs. consumer, that some people will not be satisfied until they've submarined advertising all the way down to sponsored content and we have to go way out of our way to notice that the Try Guys are always drinking Coca-Cola or something.

Right now big ad is a fleet of dreadnaughts. If we can get them down to a level of submarines that is an improvement, as they are easier to kill.

Re: Websites using SSAI (server side ad injection)

#73
post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Threat models: * The ad server outright telling lies to get paid for nothing. * The ad server not being trusted to validate that views are legitimate. Client-side JavaScript can probe the DOM and execution environment for abnormalities indicative of automation.

yes but as was said earlier client-side JavaScript can also be blocked. Everything has downsides. And it was posited that client-side was needed, the reply was they couldn't see why it was 'needed', which I agree with, I can see why it might be wished for, but you do not need it to record clicks. You do need it for other things, or to improve understanding of the clicks. Basically any solution is going to be composed…

if client side javascript is blocked, then just don't pay for that impression

Re: Websites using SSAI (server side ad injection)

#74
post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Threat models: * The ad server outright telling lies to get paid for nothing. * The ad server not being trusted to validate that views are legitimate. Client-side JavaScript can probe the DOM and execution environment for abnormalities indicative of automation.

But why can't a malicious server also serve up some JS that modifies the behaviour of the JS served by the ad network?

they try to do that sometimes, but it's rather harder to claim innocence for that than other methods

Re: Websites using SSAI (server side ad injection)

#75
post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And then Adblockers will convert it back to html and strip ads from it.

Please let me know how to convert images to HTML & how adblockers know what part of it is an ad. That cannot be done reliably without machine learning.

Then they will use ML.
Post reply on HN