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Weekend ‘catch-up sleep’ is a lie

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Re: Weekend ‘catch-up sleep’ is a lie

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Without answering that question, just block scripts on the site and everything loads fine.

Really? I get a blank page (umatrix with only first party images and css enabled).

Might depend on the specifics. I'm using Brave -> Lion Icon -> toggle Scripts Allowed to All Scripts Blocked. As an aside it also saves those settings per site making it quite convenient!

Re: Weekend ‘catch-up sleep’ is a lie

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post #57

The primary reason why 'catch-up sleep' is a lie, not mentioned by this article, is that on Saturday 7 am children will start jumping on your bed. At least that's been my experience. More seriously, my body seems to have adapted to shorter sleep. I used to read about famous insomniacs like Napoleon who functioned quite well on only 2 hours of sleep per night, but lately my body seems to have become unable to sleep fo…

The same kids that you have to literally drag out of bed during schooldays!

Only the oldest. The youngest would prefer to come out of bed at 5:30. 7 is the most important number for a child to learn to recognise.

Re: Weekend ‘catch-up sleep’ is a lie

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post #24

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No, it is not legally compliant. It maybe has lost a little bit of value to actually discuss this as it's been done so, so much. If you are very interested in what is and what is not compliant, you can read the resources published by the EU on the GDPR. They are very legible and relatively easy to understand.

> you can read the resources published by the EU on the GDPR. They are very legible and relatively easy to understand. Reading the guidelines is not the tricky part of GDPR. The hard part is: "I have a website, am I compliant or what do I have to change to become compliant?" Mapping the guidelines on to real world systems is where the difficult analysis comes in.

I was implying that this was not complicated because I did not find it complicated. I have since learned that this was a lack of empathy on my part.

Re: Weekend ‘catch-up sleep’ is a lie

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There seems to be some confusion in the comments over our anecdotal and subjective 'experience', and the conclusions of the study. Detrimental health effects, does not preclude feeling better.

It's possible to feel good and still have detrimental health effects occurring. It feels good to eat cheeseburgers. We all feel better after catch-up sleep, that doesn't mean that detrimental effects haven't taken place.

(This is leaving aside the debate about the study's sample size - which clearly requires further replication of results).

Re: Weekend ‘catch-up sleep’ is a lie

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I find it odd that this has only come to light recently.

When I was at University in 2011, I had a sleep psychologist take one of our psychology classes and it was well known back then that catching up on a week of sleep deprivation on the weekend doesn't work and only provides short term results. This article focuses on the caloric effects, but recently articles have been linking the research to purely the effects its has on your circadian rhythms.

Re: Weekend ‘catch-up sleep’ is a lie

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post #38

I invite the authors (both from WP and the study) to do same 5 hours per workday and no catch-up during weekend and then tell me that catch-up sleep "is a lie".

It is a catch-up in terms of how you feel, but it doesn't repair the damage done to your overall health.

Re: Weekend ‘catch-up sleep’ is a lie

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I wonder if what people call "catch up sleep on weekends" is just "having 2 days of appropriate sleep".

I would love to see an experiment where:

Group A: Sleep 5h per day on weekdays, and "catch up on sleep" during the weekends.

Group B: Sleep 5h per day on weekdays, and sleep the normal replenishing time on weekends (8-7h).

And then compare the effects of the weekend sleep.

I'm very sceptical of the "sleep debt" idea, which gives people the impression that they can do whatever they want with sleep and pay it back later. I honestly doubt you can pay any of the sleep debt you contracted over 2 days ago...

Re: Weekend ‘catch-up sleep’ is a lie

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post #52

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The "science" in the linked WaPo article, and the science from the journal, weakly indicate that if you get 5 hours of sleep each night for an entire work week you will get fat, and sleeping in for an extra hour on the weekend won't stop you getting even more fat when you do the same thing on Monday and Tuesday. This has almost nothing to do with what ferros said. No, resting on the weekend won't uneat or burn the ex…

How does sleeping less make you fat? Eating more will make you fat, eating less will make you less fat. If you sleep less you have more time to eat more, but that still requires the eating to happen.

From my understanding on this topic, the problem has more to do with insulin sensitivity. It has been measured that insulin sensitivity is worse the day after a poor night's sleep and insulin resistance can help drive fat accumulation, all other things being equal.

Re: Weekend ‘catch-up sleep’ is a lie

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post #8

I can’t speak for scientific analysis, but I can say that if I have had a disrupted week of sleep, a weekend catch up ‘resets’ me and serves its intended purpose (for me)

Can comp this. I tend to sleep very badly during the week at times and Saturday is a catch-up day for me, when I usually sleep well into the afternoon.

Having a chance to "reset" during the weekend helps me more mentally than it might help physically. Deep sleep has been described to work as a scrubber of sorts, so longer periods of deep sleep should help with scrubbing all that mental cruft away.

Plus just being able to relax goes a long way, knowing you have to be somewhere by certain time always puts some weight on you that can negatively impact your sleep.

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