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Re: Google .dev domain early access

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Post by chomp »

_wmd wrote: post #18

A domain just for developers! Until it abruptly shuts down Feb 19, 2021. Why would anyone trust Google with something with any kind of long-term requirements as important as a name? They should have registered ".chump" instead, because that is really what users of a Google-managed TLD are declaring "Dear VALUED developer, thanks so much for being a part of the .dev experiment! After a long hard period of staring at o…

I don't think this is a huge concern - at least ICANN has the power to designate a successor registry, and I guarantee someone will break down the doors trying to get that particular gtld.

Re: Google .dev domain early access

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Post by hamilyon2 »

gipp wrote: post #60
_wmd wrote: post #18

A domain just for developers! Until it abruptly shuts down Feb 19, 2021. Why would anyone trust Google with something with any kind of long-term requirements as important as a name? They should have registered ".chump" instead, because that is really what users of a Google-managed TLD are declaring "Dear VALUED developer, thanks so much for being a part of the .dev experiment! After a long hard period of staring at o…

Somebody makes this post on every HN thread involving Google now. But the three big public deprecations I'm aware of are Reader, Inbox, and G+. All consumer products. All the other stuff on that killed by Google site is stuff I've barely even heard of, and all consumer products. To my knowledge, no major GCP component has ever been deprecated. Am I missing something? This seems like it has just become a groupthink HN…

I heard that old google cloud offering price was increased 10-fold on short notice. Not the same, but close

Re: Google .dev domain early access

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Post by dictum »

unilynx wrote: post #22

120KB of javascript and still the accordion doesn't open on OSX Safari.

I recently found out that the sidebar menus on pages within https://developers.google.com/web don't work with JS off (usually a trivial thing: show sub-items by default and hide them with JS). Almost every Alphabet website has something like that.

So yes, minor anecdote, and I genuinely appreciate the hundreds of Google employees who really help the Web and share useful knowledge (and don't lead developers into using techniques best suited for billion-user websites, as FB often does) but I'll reserve to right to side-eye anything Google says.

Re: Google .dev domain early access

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Post by 40four »

I don't know how this stuff works, what gives google the ability to sell these domains early? Also why is everyone cursing google for taking their local .dev? Google is not the only place you can buy these. Namecheap has .dev in the works, and GoDaddy is taking pre-orders as well (I didn't keep searching but I'm sure it's available at many other registrars), but nobody is cursing and shaking their fist in the air at those services. So what does google have to do with it? Why are we all holding them responsible?

Re: Google .dev domain early access

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Post by justtopost »

Izmaki wrote: post #53
have_faith wrote: post #17

> A domain just for developers > $11,500 for 9 days early access Makes video games early access look like childs play.

It's a nice way to earn a bit of cash from larger companies who do not want "company.dev" associated with porn or malicious content. Imagine if "unity.dev" or "disney.dev" pointed to a cesspool of viruses.

So soft handed implied blackmail? Seems legit.

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Post by bhartzer »

luckylion wrote: post #61
bhartzer wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly I don’t think it’s a cash grab for icann. There are plenty of registries that are making plenty of money, as well as domain owners selling the domains in the aftermarket. The reason the new tlds were needed is the lack of options for buying a new domain. I know plenty of smaller biz and startups who couldn’t get the dot com they wanted and ended up choosing a really good keyword rich new tld.

> Honestly I don’t think it’s a cash grab for icann. Wasn't it $10k upfront to have your application for a new gTLD considered? This times ~1200 ... works out quiet good.

The application fee for a new tld is $185,000 not $10,000.

Re: Google .dev domain early access

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Post by bhartzer »

jtreminio wrote: post #44
bhartzer wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a good reason not to use HTTPs now if it’s a public facing site?

Most developers complaining on this page are referring to Google breaking local development workflows. 5 years ago no one would ever have considered .dev for anything public-facing.

Leave it to google to break up something like this.

Re: Google .dev domain early access

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Post by bhartzer »

40four wrote: post #74

I don't know how this stuff works, what gives google the ability to sell these domains early? Also why is everyone cursing google for taking their local .dev? Google is not the only place you can buy these. Namecheap has .dev in the works, and GoDaddy is taking pre-orders as well (I didn't keep searching but I'm sure it's available at many other registrars), but nobody is cursing and shaking their fist in the air at…

Google is the registry and not the registrar. That’s why they are ultimately responsible.

Re: Google .dev domain early access

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Post by sirn »

bhartzer wrote: post #51
sirn wrote: post #34

I'm not familiar with ICANN rules, but I wonder if a company can do whatever they want to a gTLD once it's accepted, even if it's not within the intended usage in the gTLD application? As far as I know, Google said they registered .dev for internal use and for Google-related products and it will be completely closed to Google, according to their application[1]: > The mission of this gTLD, .dev, is to provide a dedica…

I believe they can change their business plan. Even if they say it will be closed they could offer domains to the public.

I always thought gTLD has the same restriction as sTLD (for example, .aero is strictly for airline-related domains, or .mobi that must be optimized for mobile, which TBL strongly disagrees[1], etc.) but in reality I guess it's more like ccTLD where they're free to do whatever they want with the domain.

[1]: https://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/TLD

Re: Google .dev domain early access

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40four wrote: post #74

I don't know how this stuff works, what gives google the ability to sell these domains early? Also why is everyone cursing google for taking their local .dev? Google is not the only place you can buy these. Namecheap has .dev in the works, and GoDaddy is taking pre-orders as well (I didn't keep searching but I'm sure it's available at many other registrars), but nobody is cursing and shaking their fist in the air at…

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