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Reddit's user uprising against China because Tencent will invest in the platform

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Re: Reddit's user uprising against China because Tencent will invest in the platform

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Post by hombre_fatal »

rospaya wrote: post #50
qrbLPHiKpiux wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I liked digg. A lot. Then v2.0 came, and I left to Reddit. A few months ago, I had a script write over all my comments, and deleted the account. Reddit is the new digg v3.0.

Ah, so you're one of the people that makes reading older threads on reddit a pain. Hope you know you directly made my internet experience worse.

It's not their fault Reddit UI leaves [deleted] tombstones. Reddit even makes the WTF-level UX decision to show threads and threads and threads of [deleted] comments because a mod deleted top-level comments.

I've used scripts like it a few times. What I thought was clever was that some of them edit the comment before deleting it. It's trivial to have a is_deleted=true flag, but far less likely to store comment revisions.

Re: Reddit's user uprising against China because Tencent will invest in the platform

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Post by antiterra »

rospaya wrote: post #50
qrbLPHiKpiux wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I liked digg. A lot. Then v2.0 came, and I left to Reddit. A few months ago, I had a script write over all my comments, and deleted the account. Reddit is the new digg v3.0.

Ah, so you're one of the people that makes reading older threads on reddit a pain. Hope you know you directly made my internet experience worse.

This reads as passive-aggressive and incredibly self-centered. People don’t owe you their content, and it should be understandable that someone might want to remove their posts from a site that they no longer support. If it’s the rewritten text that bothers you, that’s just the unfortunate consequence of sites that scrape reddit live.

Re: Reddit's user uprising against China because Tencent will invest in the platform

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Post by learc83 »

jcwpwi2d wrote: post #51
sergiotapia wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> consider that they've become a massive safe harbor for the alt-right. I would say 95% of the website is firmly liberal. Try saying anything conservative anywhere on the platform and you'll be either: - Banned - Downvoted - Shadowbanned

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>Which is not to say that I think they should be banned, mind you. I wish we all got to keep our subs and accounts...

So you're a facist who supports free speech?

Re: Reddit's user uprising against China because Tencent will invest in the platform

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Post by jancsika »

jumbopapa wrote: post #9

Reddit has long been plagued with censorship. The CEO edited the post of a user because they criticized him or something. I can't believe how quickly that's been forgotten. The Reddit situation reminds me of the post about failing to build a billion dollar company a few days ago. Reddit is trying to make VCs happy and continue to grow the business, but a platform like Reddit is best as a less reliant on growth, but s…

> Reddit has long been plagued with censorship. The CEO edited the post of a user because they criticized him or something. I can't believe how quickly that's been forgotten.

That hasn't been forgotten.

Also, it has the wrong number of occurrences to be a persuasive data point toward the characterization "plague."

Re: Reddit's user uprising against China because Tencent will invest in the platform

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Post by CM30 »

dpau wrote: post #47
ppseafield wrote: post #29

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Indeed. I think the comment editing (and immediate capitulation afterwards) was horrible, but the fact that they allowed the_donald to continue to break their own rules was way worse. They constantly would dox, harass, downvote brigade (in posts stickied by mods), and in general act entirely in bad faith. Other subreddits were banned for much, much less. Either they wanted their advertising money or were simply suppo…

I wonder if the presence of a controversial subreddit like the_donald is good for business, increasing discussion, site traffic and thus revenue? Perhaps Reddit has a financial incentive to encourage (or at least not punish) subreddit drama.

Most probably. It's about the current US president after all, and it's the closest thing to an official forum/social network his fanbase/supporters have.

If Reddit banned it, then they'd likely drive said users to a competitor (like Voat) and divert all that media attention from Reddit to said competitor in the process.

Re: Reddit's user uprising against China because Tencent will invest in the platform

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Post by jstanley »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #71
rospaya wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah, so you're one of the people that makes reading older threads on reddit a pain. Hope you know you directly made my internet experience worse.

It's not their fault Reddit UI leaves [deleted] tombstones. Reddit even makes the WTF-level UX decision to show threads and threads and threads of [deleted] comments because a mod deleted top-level comments. I've used scripts like it a few times. What I thought was clever was that some of them edit the comment before deleting it. It's trivial to have a is_deleted=true flag, but far less likely to store comment revisi…

If there's ever been a dispute about what a comment ever said prior to an edit, that anyone who worked at reddit cared about, there's a good chance they store all comment revisions even if they didn't at first. I would be very surprised if they do not store all comment revisions.

Re: Reddit's user uprising against China because Tencent will invest in the platform

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Post by learc83 »

boron1006 wrote: post #53
rayhendricks wrote: post #5

Deleted my reddit account. They can take their $150 million, but freedom of speech and more specifically being able to criticize the state is more important than your daily dose of catpics.

What is the evidence that reddit is taking the 150 million for censorship? There was a post here that said that reddit was being valued at like $3 billion. Relative to that, 150 million is a tiny amount. Also, Tencent isn't equivalent to the Chinese government. Although the Chinese government certainly has more say in what it's companies can or cannot do, it's not right to say they're the same thing.

If the government wants to use them to pressure Reddit, they can and will.

In this instance, Tencent and the government are functionally equivalent.

Re: Reddit's user uprising against China because Tencent will invest in the platform

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Post by sque »

JohnJamesRambo wrote: post #66

Are there examples of companies that said “this is enough money” and stopped concentrating on having ever increasing profits every quarter to satisfy VC or stock investors? I think of this a lot lately. It seems companies don’t want to just do what they do well anymore and be satisfied with that. Can someone give me some inspiration? Companies that have such pride in their work that they aren’t constantly looking for…

craigslist???

Re: Reddit's user uprising against China because Tencent will invest in the platform

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Post by gboudrias »

asaph wrote: post #67
yuxt wrote: post #31

I am surprised no one mentioned Digg here. It was the original Reddit. Arguably its demise is attributed by inflow of VCs capital following by pivoting direction. Which resulted in community leaving for Reddit. P.S. found this old article https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/07/13/reddit-didn...

> Digg ... was the original Reddit. And Slashdot was the original Digg.

So it goes.

Re: Reddit's user uprising against China because Tencent will invest in the platform

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Post by mistermann »

fxfan wrote: post #68

I think the concern shouldn't just be about censorship but also about political interference. First Russia and now China. Foreign ownership of media is a national security concern.

What direct, trustworthy evidence is there of Russia political interference? Not a criminal charge, but the most convincing evidence?
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