Cars People Keep for 15 Years or More • Hacker News Board

Re: Cars People Keep for 15 Years or More

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Post by moltar » Sun, Jan 27, 2019, 3:41 AM UTC

inferiorhuman wrote: post #33

Spooky23 wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not necessarily. I know people who kept older German cars forever. It’s not very possible anymore. They fall apart and parts aren’t available. My 2003 Pilot was not a utilitarian transport. It was a well equipped car with 80% of the doodads of an equivalent Benz at half the cost. I got rid of it last year, because it had hit 300k miles and key suspension parts were worn out.

> Not necessarily. I know people who kept older German cars forever. It’s not very possible anymore. They fall apart and parts aren’t available. In what sense? Japanese automakers are notorious for discontinuing model-specific parts after a few years (e.g. look at the Jalopnik blurb about the guy restoring a CRX). Meanwhile you can get nearly any part from nearly any model Mercedes has ever manufactured. More esoteri…

Manufactures might stop, but aftermarket will pick up. It makes sense for aftermarket because Hondas there’s demand. While luxury vehicles are sold in lesser numbers and less demand for repair because of the type of target market who’d rather discard than fix.

Re: Cars People Keep for 15 Years or More

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Post by moltar » Sun, Jan 27, 2019, 3:43 AM UTC

inferiorhuman wrote: post #50

IndrekR wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Japanese automakers are notorious for discontinuing model-specific parts after a few years (e.g. look at the Jalopnik blurb about the guy restoring a CRX). They stopped making CR-X in 1991. It is not "few years". 3 years ago I retired a 1994 Rover 600 series, which is basically a Honda Accord -- sans few body panels, trim and lights. It was still possible to get the spares for the Honda version, but not the Rover s…

> They stopped making CR-X in 1991. It is not "few years". Depends on when Honda stopped making parts, no? Also, I was replying to this tidbit: > Not necessarily. I know people who kept older German cars forever. It’s not very possible anymore. They fall apart and parts aren’t available. Mercedes maintains a heritage program that makes parts available for models going back to their pre-war models (maybe beyond). You…

My friend was quoted $1,500 to fix an ignition problem on his 15y Mercedes. You can buy an entire 15yo Honda for that much :)

Re: Cars People Keep for 15 Years or More

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Post by moltar » Sun, Jan 27, 2019, 3:45 AM UTC

TulliusCicero wrote: post #14

esotericn wrote: post #8

As a Japanese car owner I'm a fan, but a list of 'cars people keep forever' has a huge amount of selection bias, no? The sort of person who buys a new Merc probably doesn't _want_ to keep the car for 15 years. The interior is going to be shabby regardless of what you do, and the car will be out of date / an old style. Japanese cars (at least in standard trim) are the stereotypical low TCO keep it until it stops worki…

Makes sense for luxury/sports cars, but I doubt there's a huge difference between American and Japanese minivans, there.

Honda Odyssey is way better than anything American made.

Re: Cars People Keep for 15 Years or More

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Post by dragonwriter » Sun, Jan 27, 2019, 3:45 AM UTC

samfisher83 wrote: post #26

I am surprised there are no lexus cars. Those things last forever.

Luxury brands are very likely to have first owners that turn over new cars rapidly regardless of how well they hold up.

Re: Cars People Keep for 15 Years or More

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Post by inferiorhuman » Sun, Jan 27, 2019, 4:00 AM UTC

moltar wrote: post #72

inferiorhuman wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They stopped making CR-X in 1991. It is not "few years". Depends on when Honda stopped making parts, no? Also, I was replying to this tidbit: > Not necessarily. I know people who kept older German cars forever. It’s not very possible anymore. They fall apart and parts aren’t available. Mercedes maintains a heritage program that makes parts available for models going back to their pre-war models (maybe beyond). You…

My friend was quoted $1,500 to fix an ignition problem on his 15y Mercedes. You can buy an entire 15yo Honda for that much :)

My friend was quoted about $1,200 to replace the plugs and coil packs on his 2004 Fit at an independent shop. He ended up paying about $600 for them to replace one or two packs (forget which). Paying people to work on your car is expensive. vOv

Re: Cars People Keep for 15 Years or More

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Post by robomartin » Sun, Jan 27, 2019, 4:03 AM UTC

I wonder how things might be in Europe. We’ve owned BMW’s in the US for years. However, we get rid of them just before the warranty runs out. Cost of parts and maintenance is just too high.

Re: Cars People Keep for 15 Years or More

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Post by samfisher83 » Sun, Jan 27, 2019, 4:09 AM UTC

segmondy wrote: post #69

samfisher83 wrote: post #26

I am surprised there are no lexus cars. Those things last forever.

Lexus is pretty much Toyota.

The lexus brand has a higher quality standard. Toyota is already good, but they do additional checks for lexus. For example they CAT scan the motor for any imperfections.

https://blog.lexus.co.uk/7-engineering-and-production-techni...

Re: Cars People Keep for 15 Years or More

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Post by intrasight » Sun, Jan 27, 2019, 4:23 AM UTC

I have a 14 year old Volvo wagon and a 13 year old Camry. I regularly drive both. Love not having car payments. Live in the snow/salt belt. In my youth it just wouldn't have been possible. The cars would have rusted to pieces by now. Paint sure has improved.

Re: Cars People Keep for 15 Years or More

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Post by scarejunba » Sun, Jan 27, 2019, 7:08 AM UTC

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Re: Cars People Keep for 15 Years or More

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Post by vanekjar » Sun, Jan 27, 2019, 7:43 AM UTC

I would like to see the same statistics for Europe. It would be very different.

I am afraid the result is biased. Most of the people in US keep Japanese cars because most people actually buy Japanese cars at the first place and some of them keep them.

I guess in Europe we could see very different brands.