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What I learned from reading over 100 weight loss studies

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Re: What I learned from reading over 100 weight loss studies

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Post by nsxwolf »

Negitivefrags wrote: post #23
mirceal wrote: post #16

The weight loss is not really what matters. anybody can lose weight. with a little education you can do it. the problem is doing it in a sustainable way and to actually keep it off. the hardest part about weight loss is keeping it off. you have limited will power and unless you are willing to change the way you live your efforts are in vain. Sure it may make you feel good about yourself and your journey but it's doom…

The hardest part of dieting is realising that in order to keep it off, you will have to continue like that forever. In the back of your mind, you want to think that the diet is temporary. Once you have lost the weight, you can go back to eating all the great tasting foods that you ate before. True success is the acceptance that, no, your life will be worse in very real ways. You will no longer be able to just eat whe…

No wonder that almost everyone who attempts this is certain to fail, and it will always be so.

Re: What I learned from reading over 100 weight loss studies

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Post by oska »

Negitivefrags wrote: post #23
mirceal wrote: post #16

The weight loss is not really what matters. anybody can lose weight. with a little education you can do it. the problem is doing it in a sustainable way and to actually keep it off. the hardest part about weight loss is keeping it off. you have limited will power and unless you are willing to change the way you live your efforts are in vain. Sure it may make you feel good about yourself and your journey but it's doom…

The hardest part of dieting is realising that in order to keep it off, you will have to continue like that forever. In the back of your mind, you want to think that the diet is temporary. Once you have lost the weight, you can go back to eating all the great tasting foods that you ate before. True success is the acceptance that, no, your life will be worse in very real ways. You will no longer be able to just eat whe…

> The hardest part of dieting is realising that in order to keep it off, you will have to continue like that forever.

I'm going to reverse this. For me, the idea of having to eat what an obese person consumes every day to maintain their weight is an exhausting one. I think it's actually fairly easy to be a normal weight and only consume the amount of food necessary to maintain that weight and much harder to consume the amount of food required to be obese.

Re: What I learned from reading over 100 weight loss studies

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Post by galvs »

kranner wrote: post #68
galvs wrote: post #66

It is very simple. There are 8000 calories in 1kg of fat. If you want to lose 10 kg you'll need to burn 80,000 calories through deficit, either through diet or exercise. Personally I find it easy to live on a strict diet and limiting alcohol intake to once every few weeks

Everybody who's trying to lose weight knows it is about sustaining a calorie deficit. The problem is how.

Pick any number of options!

Re: What I learned from reading over 100 weight loss studies

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Post by tvmalsv »

thepete2 wrote: post #26
Negitivefrags wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The hardest part of dieting is realising that in order to keep it off, you will have to continue like that forever. In the back of your mind, you want to think that the diet is temporary. Once you have lost the weight, you can go back to eating all the great tasting foods that you ate before. True success is the acceptance that, no, your life will be worse in very real ways. You will no longer be able to just eat whe…

What's great though is that your body adapts. If you abstain from sweets for example, after a week or so fruit will taste much sweeter.

Very true. A few years ago I quit drinking sodas and switched to sugar-free flavorings (eg. Crystal Light, Mio, etc). After a year or so I ordered a Mt. Dew, my previous vice, while at a restaurant and it tasted like pure sugar syrup. Mind you, I got used to quickly ;)

Re: What I learned from reading over 100 weight loss studies

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Post by barry-cotter »

atom-morgan wrote: post #33
Negitivefrags wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The hardest part of dieting is realising that in order to keep it off, you will have to continue like that forever. In the back of your mind, you want to think that the diet is temporary. Once you have lost the weight, you can go back to eating all the great tasting foods that you ate before. True success is the acceptance that, no, your life will be worse in very real ways. You will no longer be able to just eat whe…

> You will no longer be able to eat until you are full, ever again. Wrong. I just ate and I'm very full. I could even fuck off and eat like shit more often than I do but I choose not to. I'm 6'0" about ~175lbs/80kg. And yet I often have people approach me in the gym to ask questions, advice, etc: https://www.instagram.com/adamjmorgan/ . It's possible to eat until you're full and still look good. -Signed, former chubb…

I’m happy for you that you can eat whatever you want and not put on weight, or put on very little. My wife is the same. I’m not. I lost over 10kg for our wedding and put it on again quickly thereafter. Everybody has a set point weight that their body will naturally return to. This isn’t to deny exercise or changes in diet or environment can’t make lasting changes. Americans who move to Shanghai lose weight because the portions are smaller and you don’t need a car, you can take public transport and walk. I weigh about as much now as I did five years ago but substantially more of it is muscle because I go to the gym. But if I stop my weight will stay about the same and my body fat percentage will go way up.

Your set point will determine what happens to you with no willpower or discipline. It also effects achievable goals. Most men could look like the Rock given his fitness regimen, diet and “supplements” routine.

But your fat set point is no more under your control than your extraversion or conscientiousness one. The expression can change, the phenotype, just like I could start a conversation with anyone when I did sales and I’m now more nervous, or like the age related increase in conscientiousness but the genotype doesn’t.

In an obesigenic environment some people will still always be skinny. If that’s you great. It’s not everyone.

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Post by john61 »

Negitivefrags wrote: post #54
chongli wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

True success is the acceptance that, no, your life will be worse in very real ways. You will no longer be able to just eat whenever you feel like it. You will no longer be able to eat until you are full, ever again. None of these things are true. With a good diet and exercise, you will feel better and be happier, with way more energy. That makes your life better, not worse. As another commenter mentioned, abstaining…

> None of these things are true. With a good diet and exercise, you will feel better and be happier, with way more energy. That makes your life better, not worse. I never said your life won’t be better overall. I said it will be worse in real ways. Eating pizza, Soda and so on are awesome. There is a reason these foods are popular. No amount of pretending is going to make that not true, and a life where you could eat…

> Eating pizza, Soda and so on are awesome

It depends what you are used to eat. A few years ago I would have agreed that pizza and Soda is great. But today after changing my live style I cook for myself fresh vegetables from CSA and small bio farms I do not like pizza and all the crap any more. That goes so far that I can not go to restaurants anymore, because 95% of them serve crap for my todays taste.

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Post by ImaCake »

nradov wrote: post #59
mirceal wrote: post #16

The weight loss is not really what matters. anybody can lose weight. with a little education you can do it. the problem is doing it in a sustainable way and to actually keep it off. the hardest part about weight loss is keeping it off. you have limited will power and unless you are willing to change the way you live your efforts are in vain. Sure it may make you feel good about yourself and your journey but it's doom…

The common theme for many people who succeed in losing weight and keeping it off through making a sustained lifestyle change seems to be some form of "hitting bottom" experience. Sort of like the experience that some drug addicts go through before getting sober (although food isn't really addictive in the same way). For some it's a health scare like a heart attack or diabetes diagnosis. For others it's an embarrassin…

>although food isn't really addictive in the same way

While broadly true, specific things such as sugar seem to be addictive in similar ways to drugs.

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Post by Onewildgamer »

rdm_blackhole wrote: post #64

A couple of years ago I found myself weighing 250lbs. Basically morbidly obese. I decided to change that. I went through all the food I bought during the week and decided to do some culling. I removed anything with sugar and replaced it with Stevia. Removed the soft drinks, alcohol, and carbs. I follow this diet 6 days a week. One day a week, I indulge myself: a pizza or burrito or have a few beers. I also go to the…

Removing soft drinks and alcohol came easy, but removing carbs in a daily diet became extremely difficult for me and hence I plateaued. I am curious to know what you replaced it with?

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Post by james_s_tayler »

newnewpdro wrote: post #51

Over a decade ago I DIY'd going from 225 to ~165 and have kept it off. The main success factor in my opinion was becoming single and staying single, as well as restructuring my life in general, especially how/who I socialize with. It's pretty easy to do what's right for you when you go solo. The process isn't really different than a drug addict trying to go clean and avoid relapse. It's all about the friends and envi…

Not gonna lie when I got married and had a kid and started a new job all at the same time my weight went up like almost 30kg.
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