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The difference between Apple and everyone else

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Re: The difference between Apple and everyone else

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Post by xenophanes »

brudgers wrote: post #70
xenophanes wrote: post #65

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Are you joking? Do you know what shift is? Why would you write all caps emails or anything else?

IMO, leaving a caps lock off makes a device more cumbersome to use - particularly for NFL, MLB, and NASCAR fans. AFIK, most phones offer capslock to improve communications efficiency, but YMMV.

Again, are you joking? Who the hell uses caps lock for just a few letters like that? Maybe you don't know how to type? Are you trying to say that people who can't touch type find caps lock useful while they hunt and peck or something? If you're looking at the keyboard anyway it seems easy to hold shift while you peck with the other hand. Do you realize it's pretty standard for people here to disable their caps lock key and replace it with something else?

Do you realize that adding hardware buttons that duplicate features b/c it's slightly convenient for some small group of people is bad design?

Re: The difference between Apple and everyone else

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Post by jherdman »

mikeryan wrote: post #36
jherdman wrote: post #20

I had a really good conversation yesterday at the Dev Lunch in Toronto about so-called Smart TVs. Here's a quick summary: * TVs are about media consumption, not about interaction in the PC-sense of the word. * When one wants extra content or information regarding the media they are consuming, they tend to use a secondary device (e.g. iPad, notebook) * Most devs in the room merely wanted a device that would allow them…

So I think you're going to see a few trends happening here which may change your mind. One of the big gaps here is that most TV App platforms are independent of the video you are watching (they are not content aware). Take the Yahoo! platform which is (very well) designed to be used while watching TV, yet the apps don't know what is being watched. This adds some serious difficulty to app developers who want to enhanc…

You're probably right with respect to using a secondary device as the medium with which interactivity and TV content are brought together.

Your last point is a pale shadow of a greater problem that PVRs are trying to solve. People are ipso facto inundated with too much content from all angles, period. I sometimes find myself wondering if we as a society are addicted to this constant influx of content and stimuli.

Re: The difference between Apple and everyone else

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Post by brudgers »

xenophanes wrote: post #71
brudgers wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IMO, leaving a caps lock off makes a device more cumbersome to use - particularly for NFL, MLB, and NASCAR fans. AFIK, most phones offer capslock to improve communications efficiency, but YMMV.

Again, are you joking? Who the hell uses caps lock for just a few letters like that? Maybe you don't know how to type? Are you trying to say that people who can't touch type find caps lock useful while they hunt and peck or something? If you're looking at the keyboard anyway it seems easy to hold shift while you peck with the other hand. Do you realize it's pretty standard for people here to disable their caps lock k…

FWIW, when you're in the keyboard business like Logitech, a standard layout simplifies logistics, software development, and potentially reduces SKU's.

And who can predict all the ways people will use their HDTV's, DVR's, DVD's and PC's in the future.

BTW, capslock facilitates one handed typing while eating a BLT.

Re: The difference between Apple and everyone else

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Post by ZeroGravitas »

mikeryan wrote: post #69
Pewpewarrows wrote: post #64

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No, existing remotes do this horribly. Modern Cable subscriptions come with 300+ channels. I don't want to have to hold down an arrow key for minutes looking for something. I don't want to have to memorize what damn channel is AMC HD. GoogleTV lets me type-in three letters: AMC. I get the channel. I get YouTube videos for snippets from their latest shows. I can type in House and immediately see if it's playing on any…

I've already conceded that if you know what you're looking for (A&E, House) a keyboard helps. I just don't think that's the primary issue which people have with their TV. 99% of the time I don't need Google on TV - I want reddit and I never use my keyboard on Reddit.

But you use a mouse on Reddit to select which story from a list to read, comment to expand, upvote etc which the Google remote has, and the Apple remote doesn't.

Re: The difference between Apple and everyone else

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Post by dominostars »

jherdman wrote: post #20

I had a really good conversation yesterday at the Dev Lunch in Toronto about so-called Smart TVs. Here's a quick summary: * TVs are about media consumption, not about interaction in the PC-sense of the word. * When one wants extra content or information regarding the media they are consuming, they tend to use a secondary device (e.g. iPad, notebook) * Most devs in the room merely wanted a device that would allow them…

"TVs are about media consumption, not about interaction in the PC-sense of the word."

How do you explain console games?

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