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The 773M Record “Collection #1” Data Breach

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Reading this tweet ( https://twitter.com/troyhunt/status/1085095504197779456 ), I've just donated the price of a coffee to Troy ( https://haveibeenpwned.com/Donate ), and you should too.

HIBP is quickly becoming a critical piece of the Internet security infrastructure, and Troy should be lauded for undertaking it basically by himself.

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He has the "Pwned Password" search to allow you to narrow it down and he has a really good article that he links to explaining why despite its inconvenience. If I was him I'd do the same. HIBP is a side project of his and I wouldn't be able to sleep at night knowing I have the responsibility of securing billions of email & password combinations. At the risk of the breach of those accounts adding fuel to the credentia…

There wouldn't be any inconvenience if your password manager did its job of helping you manage your passwords. 1Password has implemented a feature that helps you easily check all your passwords, I'm honestly surprised it's taking so long for the others to do too. The data is there, there's a super easy API, it doesn't take that much effort...

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What's the latest consensus on the best password manager these days. I see he is recommending 1Password, but I recently found Bitwarden which looks quite good.

Bitwarden ( https://bitwarden.com/ ) is great and scores well in feature comparisons -- there was one on here recently. It's open source and has recently been audited too. It's free for the basic service, and really cheap for additional features. Great mobile apps and a web vault. And you can self-host. No bad points really.

I recommend this one too. The paid subscription option also gives you encrypted file uploads. Great for those 2FA backup code lists.

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What's the latest consensus on the best password manager these days. I see he is recommending 1Password, but I recently found Bitwarden which looks quite good.

Now I just recommend to people (who don't understand password managers) to use chrome's built-in feature.

It's better than using the same password.

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and receive no meaningful legal consequences. These people should be on the hook for all damage done with this dump, but they won't be, so it doesn't really matter. It's not ironic, it's just business as usual. Collecting data on users should be extremely risky, even if they consent to it's collection.

I think it's time for an external, trustworthy entity to spawn that would vet and endorse companies that respect their users. Something like the "USDA Organic" label but for user privacies. Maybe it'd be an EFF-like entity that audits companies in exchange for a fee and endorse that "Company X, and the product/services it uses, are respecting user privacy". We could then derive a chain of trust between companies, may…

Or you could follow the EU example and make it mandatory with national agencies empowered to levy fines?

The history of "web page endorsements" is pretty lousy. The only one that really stuck was SSL enhanced verification, and all that does is tie a cert to a business entity.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's time for an external, trustworthy entity to spawn that would vet and endorse companies that respect their users. Something like the "USDA Organic" label but for user privacies. Maybe it'd be an EFF-like entity that audits companies in exchange for a fee and endorse that "Company X, and the product/services it uses, are respecting user privacy". We could then derive a chain of trust between companies, may…

Standards could help too. I recently started setting up a phpBB forum for a personal project. Because I wanted to respect people's privacy as much as possible, I removed certain fields like the birthday so that they can't be entered. I disabled private messages to avoid keeping unneeded nominally private data. To contact a specific user, I allowed only emails sent via a form to prevent leaking a user's email address.…

> If you have any other ideas for forum admins to make their forum respect privacy better, I'm interested.

Tell the software vendor! They need to supply sane and private defaults, so that every admin who deploys an instance benefits automatically.

You could drive home the point by saying that if you were to run the software in the EU, it becomes a ticking time bomb and is an invitation for getting a forum admin into obnoxious manual cleaning work at best, legal trouble at worst.

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Got a few 'hacker' emails on one of my throwaway addresses on this list the last few days. That account was leaked before in another list so this was not worrisome as I get those all the time for this address. What did strike me as odd this time is that they did not end op in my spam folder but in my inbox. I'm using Gmail which normally for me has a very good spam/phishing detection. Somehow these mails came through…

Gmail, and other large providers, use filters that adapt based on user input. If you report the messages as spam then the filter will learn, and hopefully catch them the next time.

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This is frankly terrifying and very ironic. Websites put so much effort into tracking every little thing about their users, from where they come from to what they do. Hotjar ( https://hotjar.com ) goes ahead and tracks mouse movements and now we even have crazy f-ed up startups like Peekmap ( https://peekmap.com ) that claim to predict eye gaze without the webcam. And yet they get pwned so easily. So much effort into…

and receive no meaningful legal consequences. These people should be on the hook for all damage done with this dump, but they won't be, so it doesn't really matter. It's not ironic, it's just business as usual. Collecting data on users should be extremely risky, even if they consent to it's collection.

>...and receive no meaningful legal consequences.

This, to me, is the most pivotal part. Data was stolen in relation to you? Too bad, so sad.

>Collecting data on users should be extremely risky, even if they consent to it's collection.

The problem is that it's been so normalised that it's become pedestrian. It's the new norm and no longer risky because "everyone's doing it".

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> Collection #1 is a set of email addresses and passwords totalling 2,692,818,238 rows. It's made up of many different individual data breaches from literally thousands of different sources. (And yes, fellow techies, that's a sizeable amount more than a 32-bit integer can hold.)

I hate to be that guy [1], but no, that does fit in a 32-bit integer - as long as it's unsigned.

From the tweet, it seems like SQL Server puts the result of a COUNT into a signed 32-bit integer, which really surprises me.

[1] I lied, i love being that guy.

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