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SSD Storage: 2018 in review

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Re: SSD Storage: 2018 in review

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I've been following the news and it's amazing how SSDs are still progressing, a bit slower but similar to Moore's Law. Prices for Samsung SSD 1TB external USB products: - 2015 $600: Samsung T1 http://www.thessdreview.com/our-reviews/samsung-portable-ssd... - 2016 $430: Samsung T3 https://www.storagereview.com/samsung_portable_ssd_t3_review - 2018 $200: Samsung T5 https://www.androidheadlines.com/2018/12/samsung-t5-po…

I wouldn't use external SSDs as the price benchmark, since they had a big price premium over an equivalent mSATA SSD back then. For example, I bought a 1TB samsung mSATA SSD in 2015 for about $320 and it's enclosure for $15. The equivalent SSD today is about $150. So instead of a 3x price decrease in the past 3 years, it's more like a 2x price decrease.

I agree, there is more overhead. But since I'm interested mainly in external SSDs I'm tracking those :)

Please feel free to create a similar list with 2.5", mSATA or m.2 drives, it probably is even more shocking.

The other awesome thing about those 3 I linked is that the interface also has changed: Micro USB 3.0 => UBS-C Gen 1 => Thunderbolt.

Re: SSD Storage: 2018 in review

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What would consumer availability have to do with the $1000 apple tax? 1tb SSD are already significantly cheaper than what they are charging. They don't seem to base their pricing on cogs.

This is the new Apple RAM surcharge — remember back when Apple let you swap out DIMMs, they would charge 3-5x market rate betting you wouldn’t. Now they’re doing it on SSDs but you can’t get away :) If you follow the r/buildapcsales it’s pretty eats to get a 1TB 2.5” SSD from a top manufacturer for under $120, and M.2 for $20-30 more. I just got a Crucial MX500 1TB for $114 all in.

I would counter that the SSD's aren't entirely the same. The most comparable consumer NVME M.2 would be the 960 pro and it's still around $300. Definitely cheaper than Apple, but it's also not in the $150 range for the same performance.

Re: SSD Storage: 2018 in review

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To be fair, the $200 1TB SSD linked above is just a standard 2.5" SSD where the Apple SSDs are M.2 with triple the I/O speeds. These Apple(s) can't be compared to the list of oranges above.

No it is not, I linked to the external Thunderbolt SSD (last one) so there are many more pieces involved in the Samsung SSD. But it's true that the Apple one is a lot faster since it's internal.

Sure, it connects via thunderbolt, but it's still just a SATA style SSD (max speeds around 550MBps). I'd love to find an external M.2 to get 1200MBps via external, but this seems to be a unicorn still. Although, I'm still happy to have 550MBps on a SATA SSD vs 110MBps via platters.

Re: SSD Storage: 2018 in review

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Meanwhile Apple is charging $1,200 for a 1 TB MacBook upgrade. Hoping this year we see a significant jump in consumer availability of these drives. I’ve been using a 512gb laptop since 2010 at least. Would be nice to start seeing multi-terrabyte drives in devices besides after market or external drives.

To be fair, the $200 1TB SSD linked above is just a standard 2.5" SSD where the Apple SSDs are M.2 with triple the I/O speeds. These Apple(s) can't be compared to the list of oranges above.

https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-970-PRO-Internal-MZ-V7P1T0BW/... -- $439, 1TB.

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I await the day I can fill my NAS with SSDs. Might save on power usage as well.

I had planned on doing this but even with gigabit wifi, and half gigabit transfer speeds for the SSD, NAS encryption algorithms seems to cap the transmission speeds to around 100 megabytes per second I have all the parts I just haven't formatted my SSDs to go into the NAS yet and I'm not sure if I will

Even if the throughput is no better, SSDs will have much better latency and IOPS.

Re: SSD Storage: 2018 in review

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No it is not, I linked to the external Thunderbolt SSD (last one) so there are many more pieces involved in the Samsung SSD. But it's true that the Apple one is a lot faster since it's internal.

Sure, it connects via thunderbolt, but it's still just a SATA style SSD (max speeds around 550MBps). I'd love to find an external M.2 to get 1200MBps via external, but this seems to be a unicorn still. Although, I'm still happy to have 550MBps on a SATA SSD vs 110MBps via platters.

Here you go, 3412MBps (read) and 1884MBps (write) for the Samsung X5: https://www.techradar.com/reviews/samsung-x5-portable-ssd

Granted, it's a heck lot more expensive at 1TB for $700. It seems the only reason for this drive to exist is actual transfer speed because in any other way seems worse than the T5.

Re: SSD Storage: 2018 in review

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Meanwhile Apple is charging $1,200 for a 1 TB MacBook upgrade. Hoping this year we see a significant jump in consumer availability of these drives. I’ve been using a 512gb laptop since 2010 at least. Would be nice to start seeing multi-terrabyte drives in devices besides after market or external drives.

To be fair, the $200 1TB SSD linked above is just a standard 2.5" SSD where the Apple SSDs are M.2 with triple the I/O speeds. These Apple(s) can't be compared to the list of oranges above.

NVME, not M2. All Macbook drives are now soldered straight to the motherboard.

Re: SSD Storage: 2018 in review

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This is the new Apple RAM surcharge — remember back when Apple let you swap out DIMMs, they would charge 3-5x market rate betting you wouldn’t. Now they’re doing it on SSDs but you can’t get away :) If you follow the r/buildapcsales it’s pretty eats to get a 1TB 2.5” SSD from a top manufacturer for under $120, and M.2 for $20-30 more. I just got a Crucial MX500 1TB for $114 all in.

I would counter that the SSD's aren't entirely the same. The most comparable consumer NVME M.2 would be the 960 pro and it's still around $300. Definitely cheaper than Apple, but it's also not in the $150 range for the same performance.

99% of the time SSDs are a boolean: "Do you have a SSD? Yes/No" and performance between different SSDs is basically unnoticeable. Change my mind

Re: SSD Storage: 2018 in review

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Two interesting updates based on what's been announced so far in 2019: PCIe 4.0 will be arriving in the consumer market this year, with a new generation of AMD Ryzen CPUs providing host support, and at least one or two consumer-class NVMe SSD controllers supporting PCIe 4.0 should be ready to start shipping in retail products by the end of the year. (The enterprise/datacenter storage market's transition is already we…

solid state NAS not not laughable, just expansive. RAID 10 a few NVME and you can get decent throughput (and storage size) with existing technology.

I wouldn't RAID10 anything, but it's totally feasible to build a ZFS RAIDZ2 pool with hotspare out of a whole bunch of 2TB SATA3 SSDs. People do similar for 'budget' video editing setups.
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