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Re: Steve Jobs on why Xerox failed

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The Touch Bar is the perfect example of marketing people hijacking the product to push sales without helping customers.

I may be a minority, but I like the touch bar. It opens a lot of possibilities for each kind of program. It's like bringing software to keyboard. But that's just me.

Re: Steve Jobs on why Xerox failed

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post #57

The Touch Bar is the perfect example of marketing people hijacking the product to push sales without helping customers.

I tend to disagree. It’s effectively still doing the same thing by offering functions of the current application with a single direkt input. Previously as F1-12 Buttons they were overloaded with OS functions such as brightness and audio controls, moving the application Functions to the fn+ combo key. With the Touch Bar not only are buttons only available when applicable, they also allow for custom inputs such as a ra…

"It's not our niche technology, it's the damn developers not supporting it!"

Re: Steve Jobs on why Xerox failed

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I remember that back then it was very hard to figure out which Apple computer to buy. Model names had proliferated, thanks to the marketing department, and you needed a spreadsheet to figure out the differences between them. One of the best things Steve ever did was to reduce the offerings to just "four great products." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkVs4ZqWgN8

And now we have * 7 macs * 4 ipads * 4 iphones * 2 tv's 17 products ?

Nope, just one luxury brand

Re: Steve Jobs on why Xerox failed

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the X models are the newest. There is no 9, the 8 is the last "non-X" model.

So whats the difference between the XR, XS, X max (is that a thing? Feel like I've heard that). Which iPhone has a notch? Which one has a home button still? These are questions I've heard over the holidays from friends and family, questions that were unthinkable when Jobs ran Apple.

Honestly, I have no idea what the differences between those models are.

I presume there are some processor differences and such, I think the X models don't have the home button, I think all the X models have the notch as it's where the camera/ir module for the face unlock is located.

Re: Steve Jobs on why Xerox failed

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post #71

The Touch Bar is the perfect example of marketing people hijacking the product to push sales without helping customers.

I may be a minority, but I like the touch bar. It opens a lot of possibilities for each kind of program. It's like bringing software to keyboard. But that's just me.

I love the concept of the Touch Bar. In practice, I never use it and it's not uncommon for freezing to occur when I'm trying to adjust the volume which really colors my perception of the whole thing.

I think the target market should be for non-professional users (who don't otherwise use external keyboards and have shortcuts memorized) which is why it's weird that it's a top of the line addition (obviously, a cost issue).

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Sure. This recent Nature Reviews Genetics paper should describe the basic associations between DNA methylation and glucose levels, as well as point you towards more specific literature: http://173.239.45.5/~joshmitt/data-beta/Horvath-NatureRev201... Bagsvaerd is great. I was living in the Lyngby-Naerum-Birkeroed-Farum area for many years, working in formal methods. I hope to be back soon! Are you still in the area?

Thanks, I'll make sure to read that. Generally I am greatly frustrated about how little I know about 'physical things'. Like all my effort has always been poured into philosophy, mathematics, economics, and computer science, never leaving any time to appreciate physics, chemistry and engineering. Just the title of that paper has three words I don't know what mean! I moved to Copenhagen, but I guess that qualifies as…

It definitely does, a very nice area overall!

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post #57

The Touch Bar is the perfect example of marketing people hijacking the product to push sales without helping customers.

I tend to disagree. It’s effectively still doing the same thing by offering functions of the current application with a single direkt input. Previously as F1-12 Buttons they were overloaded with OS functions such as brightness and audio controls, moving the application Functions to the fn+ combo key. With the Touch Bar not only are buttons only available when applicable, they also allow for custom inputs such as a ra…

If only they have left the Esc key.

Re: Steve Jobs on why Xerox failed

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I do believe this is what's happening at Blizzard at the moment. The company has completely derailed in the last year. [1] And the fan response over several core franchises has been very vocal. Activision is literally ripping the soul out of these guys in order to justify crap like microtransactions; a concept that wasn't very Blizzard-like up until recently. 1: https://kotaku.com/with-activisions-influence-growing-b…

I had a few conversations with Blizzard devs during the now infamous panels.

They have no idea why people are angry with them. None. But that's not surprising, because they have no idea why their company was loved in the first place. They view users that balk at the imposition of exploitive business models as entitled internet trolls (nevermind that their most famous and successful product owner is literally a famous and successful internet troll).

How could they be so disconnected? Well, it seems there's a massive normative shift following WoW. Most of the staff I spoke with date to after the MMO's massive money-spewing success. They're in their mid-twenties and didn't really play early Blizz titles at the time they came out. The few greybeard OG nerds I spoke with that were there still got it but didn't care. The ones that cared left, the ones that didn't stayed.

Maybe they got tired of fighting back against the suits when Titan failed to become WoW2.0? I don't know.

Morhaime's departure, and his replacement, are emblematic of this this shift to post-WoW money inurement.

This is the first year I'm considering skipping my annual visit to Blizzcon.

Re: Steve Jobs on why Xerox failed

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post #71

The Touch Bar is the perfect example of marketing people hijacking the product to push sales without helping customers.

I may be a minority, but I like the touch bar. It opens a lot of possibilities for each kind of program. It's like bringing software to keyboard. But that's just me.

But it requires each application to write custom code to support. In a world where companies chose Electron over proper native development that is a no-go.

Re: Steve Jobs on why Xerox failed

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I agree. Whatever he might have been in his personal life, his business sense, and marketing acumen really make it a pleasure to watch the keynotes, and video interviews. Full disclaimer, I was a full-on Apple fanboi from the Nineties to the mid 2010s.

hope you cashed in on those shares !

Yes sir. Though I held on to a fair share.
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