The End of the Ad-Supported Web • Hacker News Board

Re: The End of the Ad-Supported Web

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Post by damla » Mon, Dec 17, 2018, 8:03 PM UTC

beagle3 wrote: post #44

product50 wrote: post #39

No ad supported web means a paid web. I am not sure if that is what the users want either. I have seen even in HN where people post alternate links of a site blocked by paywall to let users access the content for free. And this paid channel means every content site (such as Medium, NYT, WSJ, WaPo etc.) will have to institute their own paid mechanism which will cost users a lot of money. Pick your pill - you can't hav…

Some of us were on the web before it became an ad infested cesspool. It wasn’t as slick, sure. But it was usable, and useful. Most of the useful things on the web that arrived since, with the notable exception of modern search engines, are independent of ads. There needs to be a solution for commons like search engines if there is no ad revenue to be made - I would gladly pay $50/year for a good search engine (which…

It has been a while since google launched such an engine, but doesn't seem to have gained any traction https://contributor.google.com/v/marketing

Re: The End of the Ad-Supported Web

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Post by everdrive » Tue, Dec 18, 2018, 1:41 AM UTC

matt4077 wrote: post #67

everdrive wrote: post #66

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Subscribe to a real, physical paper. Use the internet less. So many easy, practical solutions here.

I hate to break it to you, but physical magazines are somewhat linked to their internet equivalent. If your local papers’ website is offline, “I’ll just by buy the physical paper” might not actually be a workable strategy, for obvious reasons. In the best possible light, you may be saying that Peoples’ willingness to pay for content will increase as that content b comes rarer and rarer. In this scenario, you are alre…

I suppose I'd better start writing, then.

Re: The End of the Ad-Supported Web

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Post by beagle3 » Tue, Dec 18, 2018, 2:49 AM UTC

damla wrote: post #71

beagle3 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some of us were on the web before it became an ad infested cesspool. It wasn’t as slick, sure. But it was usable, and useful. Most of the useful things on the web that arrived since, with the notable exception of modern search engines, are independent of ads. There needs to be a solution for commons like search engines if there is no ad revenue to be made - I would gladly pay $50/year for a good search engine (which…

It has been a while since google launched such an engine, but doesn't seem to have gained any traction https://contributor.google.com/v/marketing

Only a few sites support it;

And it doesn’t stop google’s tracking and profiling, just the display ads. Likely also tags you “has spendable income” for ads on sites that don’t participate (and post-shutdown future)

Re: The End of the Ad-Supported Web

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Post by mythrwy » Tue, Dec 18, 2018, 3:29 AM UTC

lkrubner wrote: post #54

mythrwy wrote: post #50

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You don't see any conflict of interest with the government being a main sponsor of publication of news?

Do you see any conflict of interest between the government appointing judges who will then, at some point during their career, probably hear civil lawsuits against the government? The independence of the judiciary developed throughout the 1500s and 1600s and then finally, in Britain, was consolidated into a formal principle with the Act Of Settlement of 1706. And since that time, the principle of independent appointe…

To me, what you are saying sounds more akin to government mandated attorneys for litigants in civil suits though, not judges.

And yes, I would see that being an issue.