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Re: Backplane is shutting down

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Post by nine_k » Sat, Dec 15, 2018, 4:44 PM UTC

Signez wrote: post #39

bilbo0s wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A self-funded slow-growth profitable startup can be a much more stable bet... I think his point is that Microsoft, Amazon, and Google are even safer.

I may be mad, but I'm at a point where I would trust a self-funded slow-growth profitable startup waaaay more than Google to run a service in the long run. Decades of "quickly started, even more quickly deprecated" services have taken their toll.

A company with a known working profit-making model is best, big or small.

GitHub used to be like that. They started very humbly, rejected most investments, grew slowly, but eventually owned most of the market.

Re: Backplane is shutting down

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Post by jwr » Sun, Dec 16, 2018, 5:33 PM UTC

Signez wrote: post #39

bilbo0s wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A self-funded slow-growth profitable startup can be a much more stable bet... I think his point is that Microsoft, Amazon, and Google are even safer.

I may be mad, but I'm at a point where I would trust a self-funded slow-growth profitable startup waaaay more than Google to run a service in the long run. Decades of "quickly started, even more quickly deprecated" services have taken their toll.

I'm happy to hear that as a self-funded SaaS founder (https://partsbox.io/). This is exactly what I'm trying to tell my customers (some of which would rather see a large VC-funded operation): if you consider the probable exit paths for a VC-funded startup, very few are good for customers.

Re: Backplane is shutting down

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Post by germainelong » Sun, Dec 16, 2018, 6:51 PM UTC

oliwarner wrote: post #69

germainelong wrote: post #63

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2. Open Source is relatively safe when you are able to self-host it. It is good to setup an environment and test the features on your own machines and also check how easy is to extract the data. 1-3 is a roulette. Unless they have a technology that you cannot substitute with an open source solution then it is difficult to justify using it. There must be a solid extraction plan available so that you can move your data…

Having source and license to run something, and being willing and able to self-support the software through (eg) security issues are two very different prospects. This is network infrastructure stuff. Not the kind of thing you leave to fester.

You can always outsource the support but being in the control as well.

Re: Backplane is shutting down

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Post by dankohn1 » Mon, Dec 17, 2018, 1:14 PM UTC

v1k0d3n wrote: post #62

so i'm curious then... considering that this is displayed on the CNCF interactive landscape page, does it mean that backplane will be quickly removed from the service proxy group, or does anyone think that CNCF is already aware? i reaalize it's not backed project or anything, but it clearly made it there somehow. considering how hot CNCF is right now, made even more apparent by the 8K+ sized crowd this week, i would…

Thanks for the mention. I updated https://landscape.cncf.io/format=landscape to remove them.

If I miss the initial announcement, we would remove them when they don't tweet for 3 months: https://github.com/cncf/landscape#non-updated-items

(Disclosure: I maintain the landscape.)

Re: Backplane is shutting down

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Post by carimura » Mon, Dec 17, 2018, 10:52 PM UTC

marcinzm wrote: post #5

Two week notice during the holiday season seems pretty sudden and painful for users. I feel bad for those who now have to scramble and probably miss time with their families as a result.

I'm willing to bet the team worked with customers ahead of the announcement in good faith. Hacker News threads aren't always looking behind the curtain at what's really going on.