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Does anyone have ballpark numbers for what a non gpl encumbered mysql licence used to cost before this announcement? I assume Sun and/or Mysql ab used to offer a similar range of mysql based licences?
Somebody please fork mysql and get rid of oracle once and for all. I bet the whole community will support the new sql.
I don't see anyone rushing to abandon mainline MySQL for the forks.
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Afaik, the free version of MySQL doesn't let you do a live transaction-safe database dump of InnoDB tables. A pretty basic feature I thought, which is included in the free version of PostgreSQL.
Well you can almost get there (completely if you're not changing schemas): mysqldump --single-transaction This option sends a START TRANSACTION SQL statement to the server before dumping data. It is useful only with transactional tables such as InnoDB, because then it dumps the consistent state of the database at the time when BEGIN was issued without blocking any applications.
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Drizzle probably is the future of "mysql in the cloud", but it's not quite there yet.
It's certainly not worse than Oracle MySQL...
If you're not familiar with Drizzle, it's MySQL that has a bunch of crap you'll never use stripped out.
Somebody please fork mysql and get rid of oracle once and for all. I bet the whole community will support the new sql.
There are several MySQL forks, have been for years. Most notably: Drizzle, MariaDB, Percona MySQL. There are many others. I don't see anyone rushing to abandon mainline MySQL for the forks.
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It's certainly not worse than Oracle MySQL...
I guess it's mainly this mindset of something must have years of testing or it's not really ACID compliant. Drizzle works fantastic, however there needs to be more drivers written to take advantage of it (and it's asynchronous facilities, especially for the Node.JS people). If you're not familiar with Drizzle, it's MySQL that has a bunch of crap you'll never use stripped out.
Can't really grasp that. Drizzle is MySQL minus cruft... Its parts have been extensively tested for many years.
Does anyone have ballpark numbers for what a non gpl encumbered mysql licence used to cost before this announcement? I assume Sun and/or Mysql ab used to offer a similar range of mysql based licences?
I'd negotiated licenses between $200 and $500 for their old basic offering (depending on volume). I've been punting on a switch to Postgres for the last few months, but they've forced my hand now.
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> Similarly, if you read the MySQL code looking for magic words to say to the server to get it to give you data, saying those words is not copyright infringement. It's "learning", not "copying". What would happen, if the protocol would require sending a picture of a picture of Mickey Mouse with each request (or some copy-righted novel)?
You publish a benchmark that says how inefficient this makes MySQL, and then that "feature" goes away.
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What's the difference between community and commercial customers, aside from support? Is InnoDB a feature? Why would MyISAM support be free but InnoDB support have a yearly fee?
InnoDB is basically an ACID storage engine, whereas MyISAM is a storage engine that gives no guarantees about anything.
Judging by the comments people are confused. The free, GPL edition of MySQL ("MySQL Community Server") is still what you've always had. These are the commercially licensed products. Oracle's shifted around some features and pricing on support plans and such, but if you're not a commercial customer, nothing's changed for you.