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Re: They Rejected Us

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Post by [deleted] »

cafard wrote: post #32
dijit wrote: post #10

This implies that there's a stigma to being "rejected" for a role. The answer is that you're not entitled to a role, just like a company is not entitled to have you. There's no stigma in saying "You're not exactly what we're looking for right now", even if it's the case that you might be _really great_ somewhere else or even ideal for that exact role in future. I don't understand people who take a "no thank you" pers…

Do you automatically reject about half of country music on the grounds that "you just weren't the person the other was looking for at the right time"? I'm not saying that a steady diet of heartbreak songs makes for the best listening, just that the impulse is widespread, and so arguably understandable.

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Re: They Rejected Us

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Post by maxxxxx »

rhinoceraptor wrote: post #63
maxxxxx wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who has time for that if you have a full time job? Do you spend all your vacation in interviewing?

Your first job is your job, your second job is working on OSS on github to make yourself look good, and your third job is interviewing :^)

Most interviews are during my work hours. Do you take a day off for each?

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Post by reaperducer »

ThrowawayR2 wrote: post #49
rb808 wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is facebook a good bar now? I was thinking facebook isn't so popular, you really want SpaceX or something "better" now. All you validation seekers have to move!

Despite their recent unpopularity, Facebook still has a high hiring bar and a talented software engineering workforce that will provide valuable career experience.

You have to wonder at what point an organization becomes so unpopular that it impacts someone's hiring prospects, even if they did a good job there.

"June 2015 - May 2017: Migrated database to new platform, and re-engineered web presence for diversified global social network, resulting in 450% increase in engagement, and 23% ROI. Site: racistbastards.com"

Re: They Rejected Us

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Post by wolco »

The lesson is you will be rejected for a variety of reasons but it has no reflection on your ability. Candidates with less ability will be hired before you. Not because of you because they are not good at finding the best. The best they can hope for is good enough to not look badly on them.

How many places whiteboard an interview but once you are hired no whiteboards can be found. We are a far ways away from when companies start interviewing with specific questions that relate to the actual role. If that happens you can start taking rejection personally.

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Post by Isamu »

Way back when you got actual rejection letters, I kept them and started to build a collection and would compare them (which was interesting in itself).

Once I made a game of it, I could actually have a tiny bit of fun ("yay! another one down! keep going!)

It still stings, but if you want to be truthful, you need to make a friend of failure if you are doing anything worthwhile.

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Post by codingdave »

I like rejection. Well, maybe 'like' is the wrong word, but I appreciate the results it brings to my life. I deeply believe that a healthy working environment only comes when both the employer and the employee are right for each other. I would rather fight through rejections to find a good home than have string of mediocre roles that aren't quite right.

Re: They Rejected Us

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Post by taneq »

vanderZwan wrote: post #17
taneq wrote: post #2

Subtitled "A Compendium Of 'Ha! I Sure Showed you!'".

Well, sometimes that, and sometimes: > Anne-Gaelle Colom@agcolom jQuery > I was refused a reference by my supervisor in France who thought the male student on my team did all the work.

I didn't say it was always unjustified...

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Post by softawre »

kadendogthing wrote: post #57
jakeinspace wrote: post #24

This is like It Gets Better, but for fragile software engineers who obviously are talented enough to make 6 figures some place else. I understand rejection can feel personal, especially when so much of your life and identity comes from the work you've put into mastering some field, but this doesn't seem like the healthiest mindset. I'm just leaving college now and don't have much of a perspective yet, but the applica…

The point is that the hiring process -- especially in programming -- isn't some golden, concise, dependable standard. It's quite messy, chaotic, and practically completely worthless. The best you can do is sort out the people you absolutely cannot use or don't want. The rest? The one's that you reject because of not matching some part of the interview process but largely are a good fit? They're probably fine, they're…

If I am being honest, as an engineering manager, I really hate to have to fire people. I have done it a few times in my career and I still remember every 15 second block of time in each of the meetings.

So my hiring bar is pretty high now. I've had my current team all for 4 years and they are all still doing great.

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Post by patmcguire »

ams6110 wrote: post #70
eqdw wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah it feels like they want medals for getting rejected at companies that haven't even bothered to give me a callback. We all get rejected from dozens of interviews. That's just life. Did anybody ever think it wasn't like this?

When I was a senior at university, my friends and I all had a wall at our apartments covered with our rejection letters. Back then (if they gave you the courtesy of a reply) they were sent on paper in the mail. So yes, it's always been that way. I myself have been on interview committees and voted to reject candidates who got hired, and turned out to be good. Why did I want to reject them? Don't really know, just got…

Probably the most honest explanation of how companies actually hire I've seen.
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