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but they didn't set up their own platform, instead they relied on patreon.
They did not lay their own fiber either. Where do you draw that boundary?
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but they didn't set up their own platform, instead they relied on patreon.
I believe "platform" in this context refers to the content platform. (just a fancy way of saying host your own website instead of distributing via Youtube) edit: Looks like they're more than just a "website", but both this site and the platform site really don't do a good job of explaining that.
the platform is incomplete. It's pretty obvious nowadays that any platform that makes free speech its main selling point will be ousted by every payment processor.
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#73Would anybody like to fill us in on what BitChute is, in theory and / or in practice?
BitChute is a YouTube replacement made for people who are "Very Worried About YouTube's Censorship". It uses WebTorrent for distribution to solve the upfront server costs of running a video service. Cute idea. You might imagine that with how endemic some people allege YouTube's censorship is, there would be a variety of interesting and censored content on BitChute. Which is why when you check the front page you get a…
It's the same issue any service or platform dedicated to freedom of speech has. The people you find there are the types who get banned or blocked elsewhere for controversial views outside of the mainstream.
But hey, that's true of any right protecting service or platform. The initial adopters will usually be the people who need that protection earliest, which often translates to criminals, extremists and nutcases. See also most privacy focused tools and platforms (like Tor) which attract the exact same audiences.
It's one reason marketing a service or platform based on privacy or free speech is usually doomed to fail.
But it's not an unsurmountable obstacle. These services just need to attract average Joes with mundane topics as early as possible, and build up communities about non political, non controversial topics as their main priority. That way, while the nutcases will still join en masse, you'll attract enough 'normal' people that people's perceptions will be of you as a neutral provider rather than crazy fringe community.
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What are the obvious reasons?
> What are the obvious reasons? Really? OK, how about this: he's a polarizing nutcase who has adopted controversial and unsupportable standings on several calamitous events in the past two decades. Most people that see a mainstream business supporting him assume that business adopts those same ideas, rightly or wrongly. So, the perception of supporting Alex Jones can be incredibly damaging to the reputation of a busi…
I m sure paypal or patreon are doing business with many criminals or even terrorists who are unknown. The reason is the bad PR and negative publicity they get from these channels.
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#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
but they didn't set up their own platform, instead they relied on patreon.
They did not lay their own fiber either. Where do you draw that boundary?
the main ways to censor seem to be DNS, payments and hosting. I have not heard yet about cutting people's fiber. So, a platform that wants to be resistant to censorship should probably provide all 3
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#76"just build your own platform" The good news is that the continued censorship will fuel adoption of crypto and speed up the demise of parasitic middlemen who take a cut off every transaction
>fuel adoption of crypto and speed up the demise of parasitic middlemen who take a cut off every transaction
Most business owners do not have the technical ability, interest, or logistical overhead to actually accept "crypto" (or cash) without "parasitic middlemen". This is why Coinbase, BitGo, et al. are very successful in this area, and account for virtually all cryptocurrency commerce. The function of Coinbase or BitGo is not parasitic; no business wants to cope with the arduous requirements to be able to accept and store cryptocurrencies.
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#77As always, seems to be full of right-wing anti-semitism, fake news and outlandish conservative conspiracy theories. Just check the 'popular' tab: "Welcome to "Your" Zionist Occupied Government", "EXPOSED: Jewish Donors Granted "Access To NYPD HQ", "How the Globalists Stole Our Home". All uploaded within the last hour. - https://www.bitchute.com/channel/white-genocide/ - https://www.bitchute.com/channel/zionistreport/…
what did you expect , travel vlogs? i believe youtube has cornered that market. Or are you suggesting that bitchute specifically excludes other kinds of content?
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#78Free speech means no one is forced to do business with nazis.
i think you mean "free trade". Hmm in this case, some users want to trade with the content producer, but it seems the entire market is hellbent to not allow them to do so. How do you justify that situation as "free"?
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#80I don't understand why BitChute can't moderate how the site itself appears to the casual viewer without sacrificing Free Speech. Free Speech does not mean they have to promote the content that is uploaded, only that they do not censor it. Allow conspiracy theorists and extremists (right or left) to post what they want.. but you don't have to feature all recent uploads on the front page. You actually don't have to fea…
that would probably not have much effect, i guess most of their traffic comes from other social channels.