Wow ... That Cave is huge ... What unexpected things could we find there?
Possibly mammoth and saber tooth tiger bones, if some fell in a long time ago.
Unlikely given the high altitude of the cave.
Canadian team confirms presence of huge unexplored cave in British Columbia
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Generally, cave location datasets are not widely shared. The contents of caves, both physical and biological, tend to be susceptible--nonresistant and nonresilient--to damage from human activity. It's easier to keep the data "low key" rather than the expend effort on widespread education.
I wish we could keep this cave unexplored. I like the thought that there are places on Earth still untouched by human activity.
Don't worry, we haven't explored much of the underground.
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#73Re: Canadian team confirms presence of huge unexplored cave in British Columbia
#74It's on OpenStreetMap already https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/651633176 and someone's named it the "Sarlacc Pit" (Star Wars reference). Unclear if the OSM editor came up with it or if it's from somewhere else.
>Bevan Ernst, a regional caribou biologist with the ministry, called it “Sarlaac Pit” (a reference to a subterranean creature that made a brief appearance in the film Return of the Jedi). Pollack added that the name Ernst gave the pit is unofficial and temporary. BC Parks is consulting with local First Nations to determine whether a traditional Indigenous name for the cave exists.
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And yet when my acquaintance summited Mt Everest, there was a Tibetan native there in a fur suit and hat. I am almost certain that there will be evidence of native incursion into the cave. Its been there a long time; the natives have been there a long time. Young bloods with nothing to lose are always doing damn-fool things like that.
There's no evidence that Sherpas summited Everest prior to Norgay doing it with Hillary's expedition. Into The Silence covers this in more detail, if you care to read the whole book, but there were technological and cultural hurdles to it ever happening. Everest is a pretty clear example of native people not bothering to do stupid things until white people show up and get them tangled up in the mess.
Technical detail (who was first to the tippy top). Sherpa's were climbing the mountain for centuries. Somebody has been in that cave, because its there.
Re: Canadian team confirms presence of huge unexplored cave in British Columbia
#76I’m curious as to how there are massive caves like this that we still haven’t discovered. Wouldn’t satellite imagery along with some ML be able to find these?
I find it refreshing that there are still undiscovered spots on Earth left. I am not sure it's a good thing to make an effort to unveil them. I prefer random discovery.
Re: Canadian team confirms presence of huge unexplored cave in British Columbia
#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
And yet when my acquaintance summited Mt Everest, there was a Tibetan native there in a fur suit and hat. I am almost certain that there will be evidence of native incursion into the cave. Its been there a long time; the natives have been there a long time. Young bloods with nothing to lose are always doing damn-fool things like that.
There's no evidence that Sherpas summited Everest prior to Norgay doing it with Hillary's expedition. Into The Silence covers this in more detail, if you care to read the whole book, but there were technological and cultural hurdles to it ever happening. Everest is a pretty clear example of native people not bothering to do stupid things until white people show up and get them tangled up in the mess.
From what I have read they were pretty far up but there is a pretty hard limit to what you can achieve without technology. There is a huge difference between climbing to 8000m vs 8800m.
Re: Canadian team confirms presence of huge unexplored cave in British Columbia
#78I’m curious as to how there are massive caves like this that we still haven’t discovered. Wouldn’t satellite imagery along with some ML be able to find these?
The great north (both Canada and Russia) is covered with lakes and craters. It would be pretty hard to single out the caves from those.
Canada: https://www.google.com/maps/@60.1004328,-75.3335854,34459m/d...
Russia: https://www.google.com/maps/@72.0373772,97.0176475,62191m/da...
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I guess the intersection between the set of people with the sufficient capabilities to do that and the set of people hunting for caves isn't that big. Is there a registry of all such caves with their coordinates to act as a training set?
Generally, cave location datasets are not widely shared. The contents of caves, both physical and biological, tend to be susceptible--nonresistant and nonresilient--to damage from human activity. It's easier to keep the data "low key" rather than the expend effort on widespread education.
Not just that the cave gets damaged, but they tend to attract people who go in and get lost, injured or die due to being unprepared and not having extensive spelunking experience and training.