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Re: Thank you to dang and sctb

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Post by DenisM »

wild_preference wrote: post #17
comesee wrote: post #9

dang called me a troll after I simply asked him exactly what it was about my comment that warranted it being removed. So, no thanks actually.

Looking at your screenshot you post elsewhere ( https://ibb.co/hoSMHK ), I have to agree with them insofar as you need to know when to quit. Running a forum is hard work and everyone wants to devolve every mod decision into rules lawyering, like "well, then why wasn't this specific thing in the rules?" No, there can't be a rule for literally everything, so you're just going to have to be an adult and take it on the c…

The full thread https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17517514

That was an interesting comment, it's a pity it went out like this.

Re: Thank you to dang and sctb

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Post by jacquesm »

DonHopkins wrote: post #62

As a tribute to Dang, whose name you say when you make a mistake, here are some of my favorite Far Side cartoons: Some Weirdo: https://i.pinimg.com/564x/f8/74/40/f8744035e15d69eb8fd4c70de... Monster Jobs: https://i.pinimg.com/564x/21/81/3e/21813e975f2aa35259246eeca... Vultures: https://i.pinimg.com/564x/e4/d2/f3/e4d2f3b47c3de90e1a084d94a... Construction Birds at Lunch: https://i.pinimg.com/564x/3b/c5/fd/3bc5fd323e791…

Cool, thank you for those. My personal favorites 'Roger Screws Up', 'Mr. Blanchard' and 'Car!', but no 'Dang!' in there.

Re: Thank you to dang and sctb

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Post by slededit »

Insanity wrote: post #23

Their nicks don't ring a bell with me, and I've been here for ~2 years. Which probably means that what they're doing is a good thing though, not a lot of flame wars going on! (Or alternatively, I just stay away from articles that might cause need for more moderation). But thanks! Good mods are crucial for a place like this

You probably don't have showdead enabled. Unlike other places bans come with an explanation - so I see them fairly often following flagged posts.

Re: Thank you to dang and sctb

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Post by chris_wot »

sudosteph wrote: post #26

dang really is a great moderator. He's got a good eye for spotting problematic behavior, and a level head for dealing with it. He's set me straight in the past, and I'm glad he did. The way he remains both professional and empathetic, even when dealing with sensitive users and topics, really exudes the best of hacker news ethos. Here's to you, dang!

Can't say I've experienced this, he treated me pretty badly in the past. Most times he is OK though.

By all means downvote me, btw. This backslapping post on the front page only wants to hear about how amazing the mods are, so the bias is pretty evident.

Re: Thank you to dang and sctb

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Post by tomcam »

They have both chastised me for "funny" (to me) or intemperate comments. Sometimes I agree, sometimes I don't. But I have never, never felt that they had anything but the interest of the HN community as a whole.

I have never, ever seen any online community moderated better or even remotely close to as well as HN.

I am deeply thankful for HN. It is a surprisingly important part of my life, almost solely because of them.

Re: Thank you to dang and sctb

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Post by xoa »

tomcam wrote: post #76

They have both chastised me for "funny" (to me) or intemperate comments. Sometimes I agree, sometimes I don't. But I have never, never felt that they had anything but the interest of the HN community as a whole. I have never, ever seen any online community moderated better or even remotely close to as well as HN. I am deeply thankful for HN. It is a surprisingly important part of my life, almost solely because of the…

Well said, about the highest praise I think can be given for HN moderation (or moderation anywhere really) is that, like much of the best IT and security work and such, it's often like air: noticeable mainly through the continued existence of what it supports, or in its rare absences. The evidence of how hard a balance it is to strike even on a project mailing list or IRC channel let alone a bit public site is there in how many communities have collapsed over the years. Yet HN has continued to be, to be I guess different from the norm in terms of the intellectually stimulating things you can see and fascinating people you can come across, agree or not. It doesn't try to be everything or grow farther but do its thing well and it generally succeeds. The guidelines are human [1]. At this scale that continuing is itself pretty amazing and testament to what has to go on behind the scenes. So thank you to the team for that!

1: Perhaps this one more then anything is maybe my favorite nugget:

>"Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith."

This really does make such a different to repeat to myself. And even if the other person is not in fact acting in good faith, it doesn't hurt to try first and then disengage with reason rather then pure emotion.

Re: Thank you to dang and sctb

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Post by danso »

chris_wot wrote: post #75
sudosteph wrote: post #26

dang really is a great moderator. He's got a good eye for spotting problematic behavior, and a level head for dealing with it. He's set me straight in the past, and I'm glad he did. The way he remains both professional and empathetic, even when dealing with sensitive users and topics, really exudes the best of hacker news ethos. Here's to you, dang!

Can't say I've experienced this, he treated me pretty badly in the past. Most times he is OK though. By all means downvote me, btw. This backslapping post on the front page only wants to hear about how amazing the mods are, so the bias is pretty evident.

I didn't downvote but I think others might have because you leveled an allegation so vague as to be irrefutable. I think dang has been a great mod and have only seen the interactions that involve me, or have been upvoted. Doesn't mean I wouldn't be interested in seeing substantive criticism from those who've experienced differently.

Re: Thank you to dang and sctb

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Post by taneq »

Insanity wrote: post #23

Their nicks don't ring a bell with me, and I've been here for ~2 years. Which probably means that what they're doing is a good thing though, not a lot of flame wars going on! (Or alternatively, I just stay away from articles that might cause need for more moderation). But thanks! Good mods are crucial for a place like this

You've probably seen them post and just not realised they were mods. They don't come in swinging their weight around all HURR DURR I'M A MOD, they tend to just politely remind people to be civil and constructive.
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