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An Alternative History of Silicon Valley Disruption

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I was contractor for a while and never saw those $100-150/hr contracts. In my current company the contracting agency gets within that range but the contractors themselves see much less.

Did you have any leverage with the counterparty?

Not even a tiny bit. Especially when it's your first job out of college.

Re: An Alternative History of Silicon Valley Disruption

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Huh don't self employed contractors make more in terms of $ to cover the extra costs 3x is norm in the UK.

AFAICT, there's two kinds of contractors. The first kind are experts that companies don't have enough ultraspecialized knowledge work to keep on a salaried basis. These people are like the Wolf ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWmRTjLRMfU ), brought in for problems nobody on staff was able to solve and charge accordingly. All the contractors of this type I know are self-represented, no middlemen. 3x is a norm, but o…

Quite right. My contracting agency was making as much as I was for every hour I worked. Doesn't seem right when all they did was handle complaints and payroll issues. On the bright side, they were throwing money at us anyway and my student loans are paid off.

Left a sour taste in my mouth, though. Haven't worked in tech since.

Re: An Alternative History of Silicon Valley Disruption

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This article touches on an idea that I think many in the tech industry (myself included) continue to be myopic about: as disruptors we are held responsible for the negative social outcomes that we bestow upon society. I think many (not all) of us who work in software believe that the innovations we unleash, in-and-of themselves, make up for nearly any negative externality caused as consequence. We have brought servic…

> I've been telling my non-tech friends recently that the great sin of our industry is not greed, its naivety and hubris."

Close. But I would say it's ultimately a lack of empathy that is doing the most damage. It manifests itself in so many (negative) ways. It doesn't have to be this way. But that's the irony of lacking empathy.

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Depends. If you're a talented engineer you stand to make a lot more money as a contractor if you stay busy and set your rates appropriately. The average salary in my area is $140k for a senior software engineer. As a contractor I could make $110-150/hr which could be $170k at the low end once the extra taxes paid by contractors are taken into account. None of those numbers include normal state and federal income taxe…

I was contractor for a while and never saw those $100-150/hr contracts. In my current company the contracting agency gets within that range but the contractors themselves see much less.

It helps to form your own corp and go direct. If your company can charge $150 for you, then you have a chance at charging $150 for you. Your company might provide some added value, so you might need to drop your rate a bit, but if you develop customer relationships and consistently meet expectations then you can get away with jacking up your rate a bit. There are times when you still might have to take a lower paying job but it varies.

Re: An Alternative History of Silicon Valley Disruption

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This article touches on an idea that I think many in the tech industry (myself included) continue to be myopic about: as disruptors we are held responsible for the negative social outcomes that we bestow upon society. I think many (not all) of us who work in software believe that the innovations we unleash, in-and-of themselves, make up for nearly any negative externality caused as consequence. We have brought servic…

> This article touches on an idea that I think many in the tech industry (myself included) continue to be myopic about: as disruptors we are held responsible for the negative social outcomes that we bestow upon society.

I think that's fair. I mean, since we get credit for the positive social outcomes, we should accept that we'll be blamed for the negative ones.

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