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Re: Adblock filter rule list modified politically in Finland

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I run a Raspberry Pi/Pi-hole along with uBlock Origin w/ all filters enabled, Decentraleyes, Privacy Badger, Webmail Ad Block, Tracking Token Stipper, Neat URL, and No Coin. I also have about:config set to disallow referers, fingerprinting, sites reading history, no geo location, etc. Works a treat.

Re: Adblock filter rule list modified politically in Finland

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How much manual effort is required to whitelist legitimate third party JS?

Far too much for this to ever be a solution for 99.999% of web users, who wouldn't have the slightest idea what that even means. A web that by default preys maliciously on naïve users, even if the tiny technically-savvy minority can work around it, is not an acceptable outcome.

There's no such thing as a free lunch. Users who refuse to think, work, or pay for quality, are not entitled to personally customized services. That would be an act of charity, which is affordable for the few who are far pooorer or sicker then the mainstream, but isn't sustainable for the masses.

Re: Adblock filter rule list modified politically in Finland

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I'm not familiar with it but aren't Apple doing things with built-in adblocking these days? As an aside (but still relating to your comment) I tend to trust my adblocker based on the "many eyeballs" theory and I think the OP and ensuing discussion here is proof that the system mostly works.

I know Firefox uses Disconnect.me's filter lists, which do have a company backing them. I trust gorhill to make the right decisions when it comes to uBlock Origin and the filter lists it uses, based on his previous track record, his stance on Adblock's "acceptable ads" and his refusal to take donations from anyone. I don't necessarily trust the individual list maintainers[1], but I do trust that gorhill will quickly…

How much is gorhill paid, and by whom, and for how long can he be expected to be The One?

Re: Adblock filter rule list modified politically in Finland

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Except most sites use a CDN to serve static content, so this will block a lot of files And it's "its own domain"

Yes, but as I said, it's very easy to add those via umatrix. And you only have to do it the first time you visit a new site. Example: You go to meetup.com for the first time. You click on the umatrix icon. You click on meetupstatic.com. You click on the save symbol. Done.

This works but it becomes a grind, especially on sites that fail in subtle ways until you realize why they are broken. And clicking in the matrix is kind of finicky, which the magic spots for subdomain vs domain.

There's a lot of room for streamlining the UI for enabling resources.

Re: Adblock filter rule list modified politically in Finland

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Shameless plug: I'm building BlockedBy.com, a tool to monitor adblock rules that start blocking your content. Adding them is very quick but removing them isn't and you start getting a lot of complains from your users. I've had the issue at one of my projects where an overly broad rule blocked all my images.

That's technologically cool, but isn't "switch from adblock to uMatrix" a more direct and comprehensive solution?

Re: Adblock filter rule list modified politically in Finland

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Then just whitelist the booking website before making the booking.

Any booking website probably use third party services so that won’t work, for card processing for example.

uBlock allows you to disable it for the opened page anyway.

Re: Adblock filter rule list modified politically in Finland

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This is not precisely about the filter list but the whole shenanigans that led to it. Persons from other countries might be interested in this little quirk of Finland. Especially as it relates to workers rights in general. In Finland, unique among Nordic countries, political strikes are allowed. What does this mean? Let's say you're not happy about a decision made by Trump you can go to a strike. Sure the company doe…

The strike thing is complicated, but generally, democracy does not mean "1 person 1 vote, majority rules" or even any of the representative variations. Living under a tyranny of the 51% is not democracy for the 49%.

Democracy means "rule by the people". Anything that devoLves power from leaders to individuals is democratic. And anything that shifts power from some individuals to others is a complex case to analyze.

Re: Adblock filter rule list modified politically in Finland

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Just block third party JS and Cookies using uMatrix. Then use uBlock origin to remove select divs that are annoying. No need to rely upon third party lists.

I have tried that. Every other time I tried to book a flight, hotel or buy something I enter my credit card info and got a blank page or an endless spinner. Now I don't know if I have been charged and whether the purchase has gone through. I do not have time to deal with that. Also I ended up white-listing so much garbage just to do basic browsing that it defeated to whole purpose.

Yes the amount of effort to manually whitelist everything needed to make pages work but still not show ads/trackers is too much.

I use uBlock with stock default settings. I also have set my browser to purge cookies, local storage, and history every time I close the browser. That's low effort and cuts the annoying crap from websites by a large amount.

Re: Adblock filter rule list modified politically in Finland

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Shameless plug: I'm building BlockedBy.com, a tool to monitor adblock rules that start blocking your content. Adding them is very quick but removing them isn't and you start getting a lot of complains from your users. I've had the issue at one of my projects where an overly broad rule blocked all my images.

That's technologically cool, but isn't "switch from adblock to uMatrix" a more direct and comprehensive solution?

The target audience is website owners.

If my users are all using list based blockers (adblock, uBlock, mobiles, proxies, ...) and those lists block my content, I'd like to know quickly so I can appeal to the list maintainers.

Re: Adblock filter rule list modified politically in Finland

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The fundamental problem is that these filter lists are maintained by random volunteers, who everyone just assumes are trustworthy. The browser makers avoid the issues by having ad-blockers be third-party extensions. The extension makers don't make the filter lists either, they just import from EasyList and similar. It's surprising there arent't more cases of corruption and broken trust. I wish I could get ad-blocking…

why does ad blocking need to be a business? It seems like an ideal option for a community open source project.
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