The Lie Generator: Inside the Black Mirror World of Polygraph Job Screenings

Post by wamsachel » Thu, Oct 04, 2018, 11:33 PM UTC

bilbo0s wrote: post #68

wamsachel wrote: post #59

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Yes; the background investigation produced a police report which I hadn't mentioned in my application. At the time of the gas station incident, I didn't know that I had just created a paper trail that would damn my background check. On one hand I understand how a discrepancy in the background check would raise concern, but on the other hand I feel that the police report easily shows no wrong doing on my part, and tha…

All of that would likely be true of a regular employer. Probably even would be good enough for the military. But the people you were dealing with, as a rule, don't believe in happenstance, or coincidence. And they absolutely live by attention to detail. I don't know much about your situation, but based on what you've shared, you tripped a lot of alarms.

Post by crooked-v » Thu, Oct 04, 2018, 11:53 PM UTC

leetcrew wrote: post #62

mikestew wrote: post #11

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Yeah, I read it several times, and it still came out to me as addressing only the final application. But now that you point it out, it seems more likely to address all applications. Regardless, that's about as far as I got because my two personal experiences with polygraphs tells me they're about on the same level as dowsing rods. "Have you ever used marijuana?" "No", he said, higher than a kite having smoked a bowl…

what kind of job hooks you up to a polygraph to ask if you've used marijuana and doesn't bother to give you a gc/ms screen?

Post by Aeolun » Fri, Oct 05, 2018, 12:00 AM UTC

bilbo0s wrote: post #68

wamsachel wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes; the background investigation produced a police report which I hadn't mentioned in my application. At the time of the gas station incident, I didn't know that I had just created a paper trail that would damn my background check. On one hand I understand how a discrepancy in the background check would raise concern, but on the other hand I feel that the police report easily shows no wrong doing on my part, and tha…

All of that would likely be true of a regular employer. Probably even would be good enough for the military. But the people you were dealing with, as a rule, don't believe in happenstance, or coincidence. And they absolutely live by attention to detail. I don't know much about your situation, but based on what you've shared, you tripped a lot of alarms.

Post by wolco » Fri, Oct 05, 2018, 12:10 AM UTC

wamsachel wrote: post #48

escherplex wrote: post #47

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...received a phone call from the police telling me to go pay for the gas. I figured it was just an honest mistake and didn't think anything of it So, given that you paid-up for the gas when requested, you didn't intend to permanently deprive the owner of it which suggests that technically it wasn't larceny and could have been sloughed-off as a misunderstanding. Given you were dealing with an NSA interview, sounds li…

>Would you really want to work for an organization that plays those sort of mind games? reply No, I don't anymore. But at the time I was excited for the opportunity

Post by monocasa » Fri, Oct 05, 2018, 12:21 AM UTC

paulie_a wrote: post #69

monocasa wrote: post #57

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That senior devs with decades of experience fail. I've literally seen someone who supposedly wrote firmware for the space shuttle fail fizzbuzz.

If the candidate was verifiably a NASA engineer the person half assed it probably just didn't care. I'm surprised that person just didnt respond with a very intricate set of functions that resulted in a middle finger. That's honestly insulting to use that as a test for a senior. Clearly there was no vetting process prior to a coding evaluation and the hiring process needs a lot of work.