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E-Ink Monitors: Ready for Prime Time?

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Re: E-Ink Monitors: Ready for Prime Time?

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post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Light is light, except for the intensity and wavelength. I'm not sure why you're so set on this obviously inaccurate thing and are now moving the goalposts to stuff about retinas and what the meaning of 'intrinsic' is. All I'm saying is both light and especially the perception of it are fairly complicated. You can just read up on it like everyone else instead of building a weird messageboard logic hill fort.

Yet you fail to point out the inaccuracies... I'm not moving the goal posts, I'm just clarifying where they were to begin with. You pushed them as far as you could within the wording of my original message, instead of taking the "strongest plausible interpretation" of my original message.

I was very explicit what these inaccuracies are and that they materially affect perception - that's why I gave you examples of actual things rather than concepts. In response, you're telling me lasers are all about about being very red and polarization comes from filters. So, respectfully, I'm suggesting the discussion would make a lot more sense if you just spent five minutes refreshing your understanding of these things instead of us having a charitable interpretive dance-off.

Re: E-Ink Monitors: Ready for Prime Time?

#72

I would LOVE if E-Ink monitors became a thing. Spending all day indoors sucks. I'd love to be able to work outside in the sun for an hour or two.

I work outdoors every day when it’s warm enough, from a hammock. I use a 13” MBP. As long as you’re in the shade it’s great. Polarized sunglasses help as well, and I have a color scheme for my terminal that’s dark-on-light that I switch to when it’s bright.

Yea I work outside in the shade as well sometimes. It works pretty well with a bright monitor, but you still have to be in the shade. I'd like to be able to soak up a little sun, while working.

Re: E-Ink Monitors: Ready for Prime Time?

#73

I would LOVE if E-Ink monitors became a thing. Spending all day indoors sucks. I'd love to be able to work outside in the sun for an hour or two.

Lenovo has released a Yoga convertible with an E-ink display.

https://www.lenovo.com/gb/en/tablets/windows-tablets/yoga-bo...

Re: E-Ink Monitors: Ready for Prime Time?

#74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have used both LCD and OLED smartphone displays at incredibly low brightness in pitch black rooms for a long time, and I have to completely disagree. On the other hand, E-Ink is amazing in sunlight, where smartphone displays can't get sufficiently bright.

Which smartphone displays can you set to 'incredibly low brightness'? all iPhones and Androids I've used are like bright flashlights when the lights are switched off.

Presumably, all or most Xiaomi phones. I've never used one for long, but the lowest backlight level in those I tested (Redmi Note 2, Mi A1, RN5) was comparable to the level 2 or 3 of the Kindle Paperwhite frontlight. (level 1 is a failsafe option since the Paperwhite has no physical buttons, it's not meant for reading, being too dark even for a pitch black room)

That said, I don't think reading in poor lighting conditions is a good idea for your eyes, no matter the technology.

Re: E-Ink Monitors: Ready for Prime Time?

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Looking forward to installing emacs on http://fread.ink once that's possible.

Is that project still alive? I don't see any activity in the past few months.

Yes, as far as I know Juul is still working on it. It's pretty much just one guy and life does get in the way of open source projects.

Re: E-Ink Monitors: Ready for Prime Time?

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I have a max 2 since almost it was released and even if it can work as a display, it isn't ideal

ghosting and a lower resolution needed to have a better refresh rate, kills a lot of the charm.

imho, they can work but on a pretty niche way, but I wouldn't buy one just to use it as a display.

Re: E-Ink Monitors: Ready for Prime Time?

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post #18

I posted to ask last year asking why mid size and larger E-ink devices were so expensive relative to 6inch readers. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15787026 might be of interested to some.

The main reason is production costs. A single 13" screen is being sold to manufacturers for over 350.

Re: E-Ink Monitors: Ready for Prime Time?

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post #51

If the maximum size is 13.3" as shown here, then no... they are not ready for prime time. That is big for a tablet or e-reader, but small for a laptop, and tiny for something called a monitor (outside of a colo).

they are 4:3 ratio, so for a laptop is more than enough

Re: E-Ink Monitors: Ready for Prime Time?

#80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have used both LCD and OLED smartphone displays at incredibly low brightness in pitch black rooms for a long time, and I have to completely disagree. On the other hand, E-Ink is amazing in sunlight, where smartphone displays can't get sufficiently bright.

Which smartphone displays can you set to 'incredibly low brightness'? all iPhones and Androids I've used are like bright flashlights when the lights are switched off.

You can use an app to reduce the brightness further. I've been using Twilight on Android, and it does indeed get much dimmer. You will certainly lose some image quality/performance, but it's very nice for viewing in a dark room.
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