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Re: Disable Google Chrome Sign In and Sync

#71

Post by reacharavindh »

jasonkester wrote: post #56

Keep in mind that while everybody here is all outraged about this, nobody else is. Because the experience is so nice. It's the reason why I can search for "prefecture Melun" on my laptop, then jump in the car, open up maps on my phone, Start typing "1" and watch it suggest "12 rue de Gambas, Melun 77320", which happens to be the address of the Melun prefecture. That sort of thing happens for me every day, and i think…

The day is not that far, when you look to buy say car insurance, and you get $XYZ as a quote. Your ur friend gets $ABC where $ABC Is there a way you could prevent this? Yes, if you care about privacy and not let someone build that database in the first place.

It's not only/always the NSA that we need to worry about.. You can already see this in some sense. A flight ticket could cost more if you look for it using a Mac instead of a PC. The road to creepy data mess is not that far.

Re: Disable Google Chrome Sign In and Sync

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Post by d1zzy »

Oh wow, so if you just log in into a Google Account it automatically activates Google Sync without any prompts and starts uploading browser history data and other no-Google properties related browser data? That's pretty nasty. I can understand that for most people this feature is very useful and it's fine to have it, just not fine to enable it by default without even a prompt or something asking users if they want to enable it (say the first time it detects a login to a Google property). Especially with all the governmental focus on Google right now I'm surprised this would get rolled out worldwide.

I never noticed it but it seems it's not being used when using incognito mode (I only browse in private mode, either Chrome or Firefox) so I wasn't aware such a thing is happening in the normal browser mode...

Re: Disable Google Chrome Sign In and Sync

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Post by partiallypro »

jasonkester wrote: post #56

Keep in mind that while everybody here is all outraged about this, nobody else is. Because the experience is so nice. It's the reason why I can search for "prefecture Melun" on my laptop, then jump in the car, open up maps on my phone, Start typing "1" and watch it suggest "12 rue de Gambas, Melun 77320", which happens to be the address of the Melun prefecture. That sort of thing happens for me every day, and i think…

The thing is that you opted into the services you gave examples of, you aren't opting into the Chrome sign-in, it's forced upon you.

No one had a problem with Facebook collecting tons of meta data, until one day, it mattered. One more link in the chain that ties users down, everyone is complacent while slowly becoming a product.

Re: Disable Google Chrome Sign In and Sync

#74

Post by occamrazor »

reacharavindh wrote: post #71
jasonkester wrote: post #56

Keep in mind that while everybody here is all outraged about this, nobody else is. Because the experience is so nice. It's the reason why I can search for "prefecture Melun" on my laptop, then jump in the car, open up maps on my phone, Start typing "1" and watch it suggest "12 rue de Gambas, Melun 77320", which happens to be the address of the Melun prefecture. That sort of thing happens for me every day, and i think…

The day is not that far, when you look to buy say car insurance, and you get $XYZ as a quote. Your ur friend gets $ABC where $ABC Is there a way you could prevent this? Yes, if you care about privacy and not let someone build that database in the first place. It's not only/always the NSA that we need to worry about.. You can already see this in some sense. A flight ticket could cost more if you look for it using a Ma…

> Is there a way you could prevent this?

Yes, regulations on insurance pricing factors and on use of personal data.

Re: Disable Google Chrome Sign In and Sync

#75

Post by savanaly »

reacharavindh wrote: post #71
jasonkester wrote: post #56

Keep in mind that while everybody here is all outraged about this, nobody else is. Because the experience is so nice. It's the reason why I can search for "prefecture Melun" on my laptop, then jump in the car, open up maps on my phone, Start typing "1" and watch it suggest "12 rue de Gambas, Melun 77320", which happens to be the address of the Melun prefecture. That sort of thing happens for me every day, and i think…

The day is not that far, when you look to buy say car insurance, and you get $XYZ as a quote. Your ur friend gets $ABC where $ABC Is there a way you could prevent this? Yes, if you care about privacy and not let someone build that database in the first place. It's not only/always the NSA that we need to worry about.. You can already see this in some sense. A flight ticket could cost more if you look for it using a Ma…

Information about what you're willing to pay isn't sufficient to lead to you paying a higher price, like in your example. There has to be no competition in the given market (probably not the case in your particular example-- car insurance).

Re: Disable Google Chrome Sign In and Sync

#76

Post by cptskippy »

c16 wrote: post #40
cptskippy wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you saying that performance issues on Google properties are a bug in Firefox? The other posters were implying the issue was Google doing things to intentionally slow down performance in Firefox.

Not stating Google is intentionally slowing down things - but I've noticed that Google products and only Google products are slow to render, slow to click into the search field of Google Maps, and when I press 'compose' within Gmail on a macbook pro 2017 I can wait easilly 10 seconds before the email bit pops up. Within Chrome however, quick and slick.

Google has a history of disabling or degrading features (image search, maps, youtube) in browsers that aren't Chrome under the "we haven't fully tested them" excuse. In almost all cases changing your user agent to Chrome would result in a perfectly functional site. Perhaps there is 1 feature that didn't work but it was usually obscure and it feels like Google was just throwing the baby out with the bathwater to spite anyone not using Chrome. Up until recently it felt like Google made a Chrome version of their product and a lowest common denominator version and anyone that isn't using Chrome got the later. Now it seems like they let some browsers use the Chrome version but there are unusual performance regressions compared to Chrome. It's very reminiscent of the first browser wars where sites were IE or Netscape only.

The whole point of standards push over the years was so that developers could just code to the standard and the browsers would either catch up or suffer the consequences. It seems like these days Google is dipping into Microsoft's old playbook for every trick it can find to get people to switch to Chrome.

Re: Disable Google Chrome Sign In and Sync

#77

Post by OnlyRepliesToBS »

jasonkester wrote: post #56

Keep in mind that while everybody here is all outraged about this, nobody else is. Because the experience is so nice. It's the reason why I can search for "prefecture Melun" on my laptop, then jump in the car, open up maps on my phone, Start typing "1" and watch it suggest "12 rue de Gambas, Melun 77320", which happens to be the address of the Melun prefecture. That sort of thing happens for me every day, and i think…

downplay and dismiss, SOP

Re: Disable Google Chrome Sign In and Sync

#78

Post by hobofan »

jasonkester wrote: post #56

Keep in mind that while everybody here is all outraged about this, nobody else is. Because the experience is so nice. It's the reason why I can search for "prefecture Melun" on my laptop, then jump in the car, open up maps on my phone, Start typing "1" and watch it suggest "12 rue de Gambas, Melun 77320", which happens to be the address of the Melun prefecture. That sort of thing happens for me every day, and i think…

> or ratting me out to the NSA or something. But thus far they haven't.

I think in a post-Snowden world that is a pretty bold assumption.

Re: Disable Google Chrome Sign In and Sync

#79

Post by cptskippy »

kannanvijayan wrote: post #51
cptskippy wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you saying that performance issues on Google properties are a bug in Firefox? The other posters were implying the issue was Google doing things to intentionally slow down performance in Firefox.

I'm not about to speak to the intent of programmers I haven't interacted with heavily. In these sorts of charged conversations there is often an impulse to make issues about "this" or "that" exclusively. I find it useful to avoid that impulse entirely and instead focus on what I can do to make things better.

Well then let me restate my question. Are there regressions in Firefox that hinder performance on Google properties?

Re: Disable Google Chrome Sign In and Sync

#80

Post by hobofan »

savanaly wrote: post #75
reacharavindh wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The day is not that far, when you look to buy say car insurance, and you get $XYZ as a quote. Your ur friend gets $ABC where $ABC Is there a way you could prevent this? Yes, if you care about privacy and not let someone build that database in the first place. It's not only/always the NSA that we need to worry about.. You can already see this in some sense. A flight ticket could cost more if you look for it using a Ma…

Information about what you're willing to pay isn't sufficient to lead to you paying a higher price, like in your example. There has to be no competition in the given market (probably not the case in your particular example-- car insurance).

What competition? Oh, you mean those companies on the second page of the search results?
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