Everyone here is clearly having the same experience. However much we dislike algorithmic sorting, it's clear that the most popular videos on Youtube are absolutely horrible.
* by this metric
Fair Trending: Objectively-Ranked Trending YouTube Videos
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#72Everyone here is clearly having the same experience. However much we dislike algorithmic sorting, it's clear that the most popular videos on Youtube are absolutely horrible.
Not everything has to be shared, but if people say that YouTube ought be broad enough for everyone, then one is in a sense sharing a space with 12 year old kids. Fortnite is probably the #1 streamed game at the moment.
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#73I was not expecting the truth to be SO much worse than the algorithmically provided view. I'm sold on algorithmic timelines now. That Youtube is awful. People are awful. Fortnite Battle Royale is awful. I don't want to see any of those.
Shows how low quality society is now.
Is it time for someone to wheel out that quote again... Aristotle, was it?
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#74This is a great idea. I also wanted to create a platform like this one however allow people to sync their list of subscribed channels from YouTube. As you know, the subscriptions feed is now optimized on YouTube and not all new content from your subscribed channels find their way into your feed anymore. This platform that I was thinking would basically bring that back, however under a different domain with a better U…
> As you know, the subscriptions feed is now optimized on YouTube and not all new content from your subscribed channels find their way into your feed anymore. Source? Wasn't that just an experiment?
Indeed, there's a separate feed for subscriptions and it works exactly as expected. I don't see the issue here.
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#75The default feed is pretty clickbaity but I filtered to only show the technology category and it's not terrible https://www.fairtrending.com/?lang=en&fc=cat&cat=28&tag=&msc...
OT but I sometimes get the impression I'm the only person in the world who can't stand "Linus Tech Tips". The guy just grates on me and I get the distinct impression he genuinely doesn't know what he's talking about.
I guess the fact that he's in this list and therefore one of the most popular channels on YouTube would explain why he keeps appearing in my feed despite my unsubscription and continued lack of interest, however.
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#76I think it's funny during Christmas and Easter, thousands of sermons and positive Christian videos are posted to YouTube but do not warrant a special response from Google, despite Christians being a large user base. Google is of course free to do as they wish with their platform and promote whatever they want, it's their choice and they own it. What I dislike is they advertise it as sort of free speech platform but r…
Ah, the "persecuted Christian" angle. Definitely a conspiracy.
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#77I was not expecting the truth to be SO much worse than the algorithmically provided view. I'm sold on algorithmic timelines now. That Youtube is awful. People are awful. Fortnite Battle Royale is awful. I don't want to see any of those.
Both Youtube and fairtrending.com use an algorithm to generate a list of trending videos, so your comment is confusing to me.
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#78If you haven't noticed, YouTube's ranking mechanisms became more "fraudulent" at least in the recent months. So besides having a service that provides un-editorialized blackbox algorithm rankings, this service might also provide a view to purposefully/bugged excluded content.
An example of how bad it is, they've started (on purpose or not) removing videos of uploaders that aren't taking part of the YouTube monetarization + have a Patreon link in their description. [0][1]
I'd expect/hope that such practice would be suit in EU courts for unfair competition.
I wonder how "Fair Trending" implemented their technology, if they are using official YouTube APIs and if Alphabet is going to kill this service once it gains traction?
Their about [2] page doesn't answer the "how do we get to the data?".
[0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18005682
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#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because people watch absolute garbage. There's no algorithmic solution to that.
there is an alogorithmic solution - it's the one youtube uses for their trending page, which is subjectively far superior to this "objective" and "fair" listing.
Do you think the Youtube trending page isn't hand-polished?
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#80FYI YouTube will disable their API access as soon as the right team notices this. Go on, ask me how I know.
How do you know?