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Two Years Ago, India Lacked Fast, Cheap Internet – One Billionaire Changed That

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Re: Two Years Ago, India Lacked Fast, Cheap Internet – One Billionaire Changed That

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Well that billionaire raised a loan of $14 Billion from the Indian Banks to start Jio and recently he again raised additional $500 Million, such huge investments rarely recover if at all. Previous 5 quarters are showing a loss.

It's like people gave him money to build the required infrastructure. I wonder if this is possible in other sectors.

The infrastructure he built is sure going to be used for years to come.

But then you realize he is a business man. duh.

Re: Two Years Ago, India Lacked Fast, Cheap Internet – One Billionaire Changed That

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In Russia for ~$7: - Unlimited high speed data (4g) - 500 sms per month - 500 minutes And you can probably get a better deal as well.

We don't uave unlimited mobile data in Germany. I think I pay 20€ for 3GB per month.

That sounds like you have a O2 Boost contract which is theoretically "unlimited" you just get throttled to ~60kbits after the cap

Re: Two Years Ago, India Lacked Fast, Cheap Internet – One Billionaire Changed That

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

We don't uave unlimited mobile data in Germany. I think I pay 20€ for 3GB per month.

That sounds like you have a O2 Boost contract which is theoretically "unlimited" you just get throttled to ~60kbits after the cap

I have Fyve.

Yes, it's just that I don't get nearlY 60kbits when it's throttled

Re: Two Years Ago, India Lacked Fast, Cheap Internet – One Billionaire Changed That

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THIS. For mere $6 I can have 1.5GB of data everyday for 84 days. Not to mention unlimited calls and 100 messages/day. Edit: Also, they have free services like Cinema, TV, Music, Cloud, etc all included with that $6 plan.

It's not 'free' it's being subsidized by someone somewhere.

Almost everything that is "free" is actually subsidized, so there would be no point in even having the word "free" if subsidization disqualified things from being "free".

Re: Two Years Ago, India Lacked Fast, Cheap Internet – One Billionaire Changed That

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I'm on Jio and paying $5 for 84 days. I get 1. Free voice calls 2. 100 SMS/ day 3. 1.5GB High speed data/ day (20+ MBPS)- Post which unlimited @ 64 Kbps 4. Subscription to Jio apps like Music/ Movies/ News The page shows pricing at $5.7, everyone I know has always received a discount voucher for Rs 50. https://www.jio.com/en-in/4g-plans

100$ for 200GB 4g plan on China Mobile Pakistan

Whoa! That's expensive.

One of the reason for India's economic success in the digital age is awesome and affordable telecommunications infrastructure.

You can't run a good start up ecosystem, or even a decent economic ecosystem without these things these days.

Re: Two Years Ago, India Lacked Fast, Cheap Internet – One Billionaire Changed That

#77

Well that billionaire raised a loan of $14 Billion from the Indian Banks to start Jio and recently he again raised additional $500 Million, such huge investments rarely recover if at all. Previous 5 quarters are showing a loss.

It's like people gave him money to build the required infrastructure. I wonder if this is possible in other sectors. The infrastructure he built is sure going to be used for years to come. But then you realize he is a business man. duh.

>>I wonder if this is possible in other sectors.

It is.

Some of the ideas that has clicked in India in the recent past are things like PPP(Public private partnership), BOP(Build and operate) models. Basically you build out highways and other national infrastructure and then you recover the money from toll.

These days you can exit Bangalore in any direction, and have access to darn good highways. I typically travel to districts around Bangalore to see my relatives, and the highway infrastructure is almost on par with international standards. And this is with every single exit route from Bangalore. Karnataka in general has good infrastructure.

Even inside Bangalore, the NICE road and elevated highway reminded me of US freeways. Very clean, and high quality roads.

You have to pay toll though. It largely works. Ultimately if you have enough economic activity, things will pay for themselves.

Re: Two Years Ago, India Lacked Fast, Cheap Internet – One Billionaire Changed That

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I'm on Jio and paying $5 for 84 days. I get 1. Free voice calls 2. 100 SMS/ day 3. 1.5GB High speed data/ day (20+ MBPS)- Post which unlimited @ 64 Kbps 4. Subscription to Jio apps like Music/ Movies/ News The page shows pricing at $5.7, everyone I know has always received a discount voucher for Rs 50. https://www.jio.com/en-in/4g-plans

Had to re-read to see 1.5 GB per day . Wow. I used to think we had it good in Austria (10GB for €10 per month ). But that is fantastic.

In Europe, the wired broadbands are cheap and fast. In India, there is no hope for cheap and fast wired broadband due to poor planning. Hence the craze for 4G. Also, the rates are marginal. For a long time, the rates induced loss for companies.

Re: Two Years Ago, India Lacked Fast, Cheap Internet – One Billionaire Changed That

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I'm on Jio and paying $5 for 84 days. I get 1. Free voice calls 2. 100 SMS/ day 3. 1.5GB High speed data/ day (20+ MBPS)- Post which unlimited @ 64 Kbps 4. Subscription to Jio apps like Music/ Movies/ News The page shows pricing at $5.7, everyone I know has always received a discount voucher for Rs 50. https://www.jio.com/en-in/4g-plans

I heard the service is cheap but quality is bad?

Re: Two Years Ago, India Lacked Fast, Cheap Internet – One Billionaire Changed That

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However, there are downsides to this. To compete with Jio. All the carriers have massively decreased the prices to match Jio. This has increased congestion in all metro areas. Things don't work when I most need it. I cannot book an Uber in the middle of the city. The uber drivers struggle to get the navigation right. I sometimes hear "All channels occupied" error when I'm calling. I never knew such an error existed.…

That's the sad truth about unlimited plans. You can't beat physics. Sadly most people don't understand this and think ISPs are being greedy.
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