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The Free Stack – Running Your Application for Free on AWS

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Re: The Free Stack – Running Your Application for Free on AWS

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All of this work and complete dependency on third party services is worth it? Isn't much easier to create a lightweight app in say, Go and SQLite, and pay a so-low-to-be-insignificant monthly fee?

I wonder what amount of money would be sufficient to create the digital equivalent of a foundation to ensure the uptime of a website/project. It would be kinda cool to put away a few grand to ensure something stays up "forever".

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Re: The Free Stack – Running Your Application for Free on AWS

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post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All of this work and complete dependency on third party services is worth it? Isn't much easier to create a lightweight app in say, Go and SQLite, and pay a so-low-to-be-insignificant monthly fee?

I wonder what amount of money would be sufficient to create the digital equivalent of a foundation to ensure the uptime of a website/project. It would be kinda cool to put away a few grand to ensure something stays up "forever".

The price of forever ranges from a few hundred to millions depending on how resilient you want to be.

In reality, it would probably be more effective to dedicate nearly $0 to infrastructure and $N,000.00 to an endowment for 1-3 hours of engineering time each year.

Figuring out how to host a static site for free and moving the site to that service requires almost no time for a competent engineer. But finding a solution that is guaranteed to exist in 100 years with zero human intervention would probably cost millions...

Re: The Free Stack – Running Your Application for Free on AWS

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With a basic DO droplet, you can still do that for $5/month, and hey, if it takes off your app won't depend on a bunch of expensive proprietary software. Also I'm guessing that if cost is a concern, denial of service is preferable to blowing the bank under unanticipated high loads. Maybe I need to drink more AWS/GCP kool-aid though and see the light.

Recently I've been fascinated at gap between server providers these days. It seems each provider is either: - Enterprise public cloud, AWS/GCP/Azure, expensive but scalable and enterprise friendly - Developer public cloud, Linode/DO, cheap and easy to use Although I say that AWS/GCP/etc are expensive, they obviously have negotiable prices for large customers. I doubt the smaller providers do that. But it makes me won…

The cheapest AWS EC2 reserved instance is about the same $/month as the cheapest DO instance, both can be used for a small website. You’ll pay more for on-demand pricing.

Re: The Free Stack – Running Your Application for Free on AWS

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This is a nice write up. My only concern is that these days we think that the alternative to free is $40 to hundreds of dollars a months for something decent. In the days of shared hosting, you could drop $3 to $5 to host your small website and expect your website to decently perform. But with your DO/Linode, you can expect excellent performance for the same price. Only last month my two $5 droplets handled 5 million…

For 5 Euros per month a cloud VPS at Hetzner.com. comes with 2 CPUs and 4GB RAM. That's 8 or maybe 16 times the RAM that Facebook probably launched with plus extra CPU and SSD disk speed. All these cobbled-together free tiers may be slightly cheaper but the added complexity I can do without. It just seems like tech for tech's sake.

Re: The Free Stack – Running Your Application for Free on AWS

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With a basic DO droplet, you can still do that for $5/month, and hey, if it takes off your app won't depend on a bunch of expensive proprietary software. Also I'm guessing that if cost is a concern, denial of service is preferable to blowing the bank under unanticipated high loads. Maybe I need to drink more AWS/GCP kool-aid though and see the light.

Recently I've been fascinated at gap between server providers these days. It seems each provider is either: - Enterprise public cloud, AWS/GCP/Azure, expensive but scalable and enterprise friendly - Developer public cloud, Linode/DO, cheap and easy to use Although I say that AWS/GCP/etc are expensive, they obviously have negotiable prices for large customers. I doubt the smaller providers do that. But it makes me won…

Hetzner.com is half the price of Linode/Digital Ocean.

Re: The Free Stack – Running Your Application for Free on AWS

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With all costs that goes into building a business (directly in $ or indirectly in hours) is it worth going down the path of saving money to this degree? Setup heroku in If $100/month breaks you, I think you’re in the wrong path anyways.

You can set up a FaaS app just as fast as Heroku.

I find it even more efficient, since Go, AWS SAM and Lambda offers dev/build/prod simplicity that Heroku never figured out.

I open sourced and documented the stack that I use instead of Heroku here:

https://github.com/nzoschke/gofaas

Re: The Free Stack – Running Your Application for Free on AWS

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I am not convinced that you really need lambda and all that complexity. I also don't really like the characteristics of Lambda, taking forever to wake up and limited debugging. A $5 DO/Hetzner Instance can already do a lot if you pay a bit attention to performance. I run a small Golang Api on DO for $5, using DynamoDB and some Cloudflare Caching (free) and it can handle quite a lot of traffic.

Re: The Free Stack – Running Your Application for Free on AWS

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder what amount of money would be sufficient to create the digital equivalent of a foundation to ensure the uptime of a website/project. It would be kinda cool to put away a few grand to ensure something stays up "forever".

The price of forever ranges from a few hundred to millions depending on how resilient you want to be. In reality, it would probably be more effective to dedicate nearly $0 to infrastructure and $N,000.00 to an endowment for 1-3 hours of engineering time each year. Figuring out how to host a static site for free and moving the site to that service requires almost no time for a competent engineer. But finding a solutio…

That's along the lines of what I was thinking. The www.mywebsite.com foundation, worth a whopping 10k, invests it's 300$ annual interest in updating the hosting for www.mywebsite.com.
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