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Linux touchpad like a Macbook: goal worth pursuing?

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Re: Linux touchpad like a Macbook: goal worth pursuing?

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Microsoft's Surface Book comes very close actually, so while the MBPs are still ahead, the gap is getting smaller!

The Dell XPS 13 touchpad hardware isn't too bad either. It should be bigger though.

My precision 5520 touchpad actually feels very good. It's not MacBook grade but it's /very/ close.

Re: Linux touchpad like a Macbook: goal worth pursuing?

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I see. I haven't tried the Thinkpads since before they were sold to Lenovo, so perhaps they are superior. I am in the market for a new laptop, so perhaps I should give them a chance. Not really for the pointers, but they do seem to be fine laptops overall.

Yeah. I got a Dell for my day job and unfortunately the nipple is entirely unusable. I miss my ThinkPad :/

Same here. I had big hopes for Dell's nipple, but it's hardly usable and I tend to prefer the touchpad.

On my own Lenovo, I use the nipple exclusively, and touchpad is disabled completely. I had played Quake vs other human players with the nipple and won, and I find it vastly superior to any kind of touchpad.

Re: Linux touchpad like a Macbook: goal worth pursuing?

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Have you tried Vimium[0]? It brings vim-like shortcuts to your browser. Despite what the Readme says, I find it perfectly usable on Firefox. [0]: https://github.com/philc/vimium

Thanks I will try that out though my Emacs-hands may get confused.

I think maybe this is the problem I would pay $100,000 to solve / improve?

https://imgur.com/a/7axkPSW

Re: Linux touchpad like a Macbook: goal worth pursuing?

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Wouldn't it be easier to just wipe the drive before TSA?

Really depends on their comfort/paranoia level. If the device is taken out of their sight for more than a few minutes, they'd be highly suspicious. More so if you are crossing borders of countries known to be hostile.

> Really depends on their comfort/paranoia level. If the device is taken out of their sight for more than a few minutes, they'd be highly suspicious.

If your expected adversary is a nation-state intelligence agency, what do you expect to do? Take your laptop with you everywhere you go, all the time? Leave in your apartment for a theoretical attacker to execute an evil maid attack on it?

FDE is highly useful against ordinary adversaries. People with the financial/staffing/training resources to run surveillance on you 24x7 and access your equipment while it's unattended, that's an entirely other ball game.

Re: Linux touchpad like a Macbook: goal worth pursuing?

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It's been a year now I've switched from mac to linux. Using libinput-gestures[0] was quite nice, but eventually I changed by workflow to use keyboard shortcuts more. [0] https://github.com/bulletmark/libinput-gestures

I've also installed libinput-gestures and I'm using it in a GNOME 3.28.2 Xorg session (with "natural" scrolling disabled) on a MBP 11,1 with the configuration below. I feel this is pretty close to a macOS experience.

# Move to next/prev workspace

gesture swipe down 4 _internal ws_up

gesture swipe up 4 _internal ws_down

# Browser go forward/back

gesture swipe right xdotool key alt+Right

gesture swipe left xdotool key alt+Left

# Toggle Activities overview

gesture swipe up 3 xdotool key super+s

gesture swipe down 3 xdotool key super+s

# Zoom in/out (works in e.g. Firefox, Chromium, Terminal)

gesture pinch in xdotool key ctrl+minus

gesture pinch out xdotool key ctrl+plus

Re: Linux touchpad like a Macbook: goal worth pursuing?

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Am I the only one who prefers the nipples on thinkpads?

I love them when doing programming that requires my fingers to rarely leave the keyboard. It's nice to be able to nudge the mouse here or there occasionally without having the context switch of moving my fingers completely off the keyboard.

I've always wondered how these were meant to be used! Of course it makes sense if you're touch typing and your fingers are already there ...

Re: Linux touchpad like a Macbook: goal worth pursuing?

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A cheap mouse allows finer and faster control than the best touchpad that currently exists, so... I plug in a mouse. (Don't believe me? Play an FPS game with touchpad against a mouse user.) That said, Synaptics touchpad support on Linux is bad. In my case, it's the touchpad on a Thinkpad T440s. It can run in a legacy/standard protocol mode or a "modern" protocol mode. Linux supposedly supports the latter (where palm…

There's no need for this pointless one-upping. Nobody who uses touchpad will say it's more precise/faster than a mouse. And when did anyone proclaim touchpad is great for games?

I love the touchpad because it feels better and natural to me, and gestures make doing tasks like switching between desktops feel great, like I'm literally sliding papers on my desk. Lastly, not having to bring another device with me everywhere makes it a no brainer for me.

Re: Linux touchpad like a Macbook: goal worth pursuing?

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Is the touchpad driver in the macOS kernel? If yes, the kernel itself is open source, would it be crazy to try to extract the driver from there and make it Linux compatible? Other question: When are you actually using the touchpad? I use my notebook 99% of the time with a screen + keyboard/mouse. Next question: Can we get to the level of a Macbook touchpad only with software? Is there no magic sauce inside the hardwa…

AFAIK macbook's keyboard and touchpad has a dedicated chip to handle user interactions and is possibly part of the firmware. This explains why it works on Apple EFI level and it works smoothly even on high CPU load.

Re: Linux touchpad like a Macbook: goal worth pursuing?

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Usually when people set me up for high expectations, I end up getting disappointed. In the case of the Macbook touchpad, my expecations were actually exceeded. I use Bootcamp a lot for some of my projects, and the touchpad support in Windows is so bad, I can't wait to go back to Mac Os (other than that, I'm pretty much OS agnostic).

There's now a 3rd party precision touchpad driver that works surprisingly well for MacBooks. Unfortunately it's CPU-bound and high CPU load can cause the touchpad to be unresponsive. Setting CPU affinity to high partially mitigates the problem though

https://github.com/imbushuo/mac-precision-touchpad

Re: Linux touchpad like a Macbook: goal worth pursuing?

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A cheap mouse allows finer and faster control than the best touchpad that currently exists, so... I plug in a mouse. (Don't believe me? Play an FPS game with touchpad against a mouse user.) That said, Synaptics touchpad support on Linux is bad. In my case, it's the touchpad on a Thinkpad T440s. It can run in a legacy/standard protocol mode or a "modern" protocol mode. Linux supposedly supports the latter (where palm…

The trackpad has more functionality than the mouse. Trackpad will never be more precise.
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