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iies indeed, vuhii can't vvue dgust use tvuo gliiphs for sounds that are "obvious" combinations of other sounds?
ies indeed vuhai can’t vee just use tvoo gliphs Is a much more readable example I think.
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#73Strange that this article didn't even once mention the only 20th century punctuation innovation that actually stuck :)
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I have a different proposal - ligatures. I don't know if you've ever played with a font like FiraCode, but it gives you both fancy typographical symbols and compatibility with existing compilers by defining purely-visual translations between certain sequences of characters and purpose-built glyphs. So for example '!=' is rendered as '≠', '=>' as '⇒', '>=' as '≥', etc. See https://github.com/tonsky/FiraCode . They do…
Oh, they do. Why should www turn into a ligature?
Isn't the whole point of a ligature to visually change a suboptimal representation of something to what it's supposed to represent? E.g. changing != to ≠ visually while the compiler still sees !=?
www isn't representing anything so a ligature doesn't make sense. Same with the comment ligatures, the change to ≠?). Even the thinner escape \, which I understand the reasoning for, is probably overkill.
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#75> For thousands of years, in some written languages, there was no space between words. People were expected figure out sentences and clauses while reading aloud. Really?! Addingspacesbetweenwordsseemslikeanobviousthingtodo. According to Wikipedia, spaces weren't added because: (1) Free form of speech is so continuous, adding inaudible spaces to manuscripts would have been considered illogical. (2) At a time when ink…
>I'm not convinced by reason #1 because words are distinct even in speech.
Perhaps you only spend time around trained actors who enunciate their speech. Because let me tell to most people I know ramble their speech into one long string of sounds. Go listen to a recording of a language you know nothing about and tell me what the words are. Oh, and not a news cast, but everyday conversation between friends having a good time.
You speak English so you know it's "the dog jumped" and not "thud awgjumpt." But if you yell both of those quickly there's not any difference.
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#77I don't have a strong opinion on the interrobang either way, but let's imagine we wanted to start a campaign for it to go mainstream. The most important thing that could happen would be for a popular auto-correct tool to start substituting it for '?!' and '!?'. MS Word would be ideal. People would start to get familiar with it when reading other's works. And when authoring, people tend to treat auto-correct like an a…
|√Π÷ק∆≠∞′↑¢₱¥€\][™®©‰… Interesting the range of characters that are available in Gboard on my Android phone.
Seems odd that you'd get things like ‰ and √ and not an interrobang.
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#78IT seems now, it's much easier to create lasting end marks, not exactly a symbol, but for example if I end a post on reddit with /s everyone knows I mean sarcasm (almost everyone).
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Oh, they do. Why should www turn into a ligature?
Isn't the whole point of a ligature to visually change a suboptimal representation of something to what it's supposed to represent? E.g. changing != to ≠ visually while the compiler still sees !=? www isn't representing anything so a ligature doesn't make sense. Same with the comment ligatures, the change to ≠?). Even the thinner escape \, which I understand the reasoning for, is probably overkill.
Traditionally ligatures have been about abbreviation or aesthetics, not weird approximations in character sets: see https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typographic_ligature
E.g. when I enable ligatures in Pillars of Eternity, it just makes all the prose look gorgeous.
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Why can't we just use two punctuation marks?!
iies indeed, vuhii can't vvue dgust use tvuo gliiphs for sounds that are "obvious" combinations of other sounds?
I’m curious how you got to your examples. Will upvote an honest answer. The ii is used for y, long i, and short i, and I don’t understand any of the vs, or why they would be obvious in these combinations, doesn’t v only make one sound in English?