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Netflix is moving television beyond time-slots and national markets

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Re: Netflix is moving television beyond time-slots and national markets

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Post by tonyedgecombe »

isostatic wrote: post #58
petepete wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Handmaid's Tale is great, and here in the UK is shown on Channel 4 (free to air, only a TV licence is required). Then there's Billions, my current favourite show, which is on Sky Atlantic (subscription, about £30 per month) - also home to Game Of Thrones and everything else HBO. If you add Prime for Mr Robot and Netflix for Stranger Things, it starts to get quite expensive.

Not sure about sky Atlantic, but channel 4 has adverts, thus dramas aren't watchable.

I won't watch anything with adverts now, so Chanel 4 is out, I'll pay for a one off download rather than sit through ads.

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Post by orbitur »

fiblye wrote: post #16
abritinthebay wrote: post #6

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Because the implied point is about it being mainstream . Which what you’re describing explicitly isn’t.

The most normal, borderline tech-inept people I know were all torrenting stuff 15 years ago. People I know here in Asia were torrenting American music that they couldn't easily/cheaply find here, and Americans I know were pirating anime subs years before they'd ever get legally released in America.

At least in North America, torrenting is no longer mainstream. Netflix is too easy. Adults that were previously torrenters barely use a machine that offers a torrent client anymore, it's mostly iPads and phones for casual use.

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Post by tonyedgecombe »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #46
chris_wot wrote: post #10

Their biggest issue, I feel at least, is that their plots for original content are getting slower and slower. You can actually do faster paced, more engaging content. Just look at 12 Monkeys and Fringe.

I agree. I mostly stay away from the Netflix-made show, as it takes 13 episodes to discover there really was no plot to the show.

It took six seasons to realise there was no plot to Lost.

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Post by rtpg »

JackCh wrote: post #45
SteveNuts wrote: post #19

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Can you give an example?

It's probably best for civility's sake if he didn't. Would it really add much to the discussion if he did? I think it should suffice to say that the range of netflix content is far narrower than the ideological range of the general population.

But given they have normal TV shows _and_ their own content, they are covering more ground than anyone

The real complaint being dog whistled is that there is _any_ content not matching GP's worldview.

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Post by mc32 »

thomasfedb wrote: post #17
mc32 wrote: post #12

As Netflix becomes a bigger player around the world and it flexes its influence, I expect to see some international jurisdictions to question its power and imperial projection (projecting its values on countries with different values as well as for threatening the viability of local industries)

Must say, as a Netflix user I'm continually impressed with the breadth of and progressive nature of their original content. It's a bit selling point.

That’s one aspect, but the other is cultural imperialism of for example offering Mexican content to all LatAm, or Nigerian content to all Subsaharan Africa. Those other countries at the receiving end may not share the same values with the source countries.

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Post by wolco »

orbitur wrote: post #72
fiblye wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The most normal, borderline tech-inept people I know were all torrenting stuff 15 years ago. People I know here in Asia were torrenting American music that they couldn't easily/cheaply find here, and Americans I know were pirating anime subs years before they'd ever get legally released in America.

At least in North America, torrenting is no longer mainstream. Netflix is too easy. Adults that were previously torrenters barely use a machine that offers a torrent client anymore, it's mostly iPads and phones for casual use.

It is easy to torrent from a phone/device so many good standalone clients. The streaming of popcorn movie time to kodi plugins life is all about streaming but a lot of content still comes from torrents.

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Post by wolco »

slededit wrote: post #8
abritinthebay wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because the implied point is about it being mainstream . Which what you’re describing explicitly isn’t.

Piracy was mainstream in the early 90s/2000s. It was only when iTunes came out and the RIAA lawsuits successfully killed the p2p clients that it tamed back down.

iTunes changed the music business into what it is today.

The heyday of albums, bands, 20 dollar cds is over. But music has become less special less mainstream and people are less likely to identify themselves by subgroups formed around a music type. Young people are not on mass claiming to be Punks, goths, hippies, metal fans, disco heads, something new etc. Which has slowed down the evolution of music.

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Post by dzhiurgis »

orbitur wrote: post #72
fiblye wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The most normal, borderline tech-inept people I know were all torrenting stuff 15 years ago. People I know here in Asia were torrenting American music that they couldn't easily/cheaply find here, and Americans I know were pirating anime subs years before they'd ever get legally released in America.

At least in North America, torrenting is no longer mainstream. Netflix is too easy. Adults that were previously torrenters barely use a machine that offers a torrent client anymore, it's mostly iPads and phones for casual use.

Funny. I find WebTorrents a bliss to use compared with Netflix - you wan't me to install WHAT? And then pay how much??? Heeeell no.

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Post by orbitur »

dzhiurgis wrote: post #78
orbitur wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At least in North America, torrenting is no longer mainstream. Netflix is too easy. Adults that were previously torrenters barely use a machine that offers a torrent client anymore, it's mostly iPads and phones for casual use.

Funny. I find WebTorrents a bliss to use compared with Netflix - you wan't me to install WHAT? And then pay how much??? Heeeell no.

Install? Netflix comes with even the cheapest TVs now. It's hard to buy a new TV without it.
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