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How a Diablo expansion led to behind-the-scenes trouble

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Re: How a Diablo expansion led to behind-the-scenes trouble

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We signed some sort of NDA which for me at this point is buried in 30 years of paperwork.

Wouldn't this be covered by the statue of limitations in your jurisdiction(s)?

If it wasn't a typo then I hope you would appreciate it being brought to your attention that it's 'statute', not 'statue'.

Re: How a Diablo expansion led to behind-the-scenes trouble

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The user is only given one option here, to accept tracking - the website isn’t even trying to be GDPR compliant, apparently they do not foresee having any EU visitors and so have no need to be. As a result, I’m not reading the damn thing.

Or a US company isn't going to comply with EU laws because they have no reason to.

If you make money off E.U. citizens, you should comply with E.U. laws. Simple as that. If you don’t want to comply with the laws of a country, do not make money off people there.

Re: How a Diablo expansion led to behind-the-scenes trouble

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Wouldn't this be covered by the statue of limitations in your jurisdiction(s)?

If it wasn't a typo then I hope you would appreciate it being brought to your attention that it's 'statute', not 'statue'.

Oops, yeah. Definitely a typo.

Now I'm picturing a statue of limitations though. Maybe ye old roman style, with the words around the base. :D

Re: How a Diablo expansion led to behind-the-scenes trouble

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Really? From my read of the article it seemed like most of the staff at Blizzard was incredibly immature and the kind of folks that bury their heads in the sand while ignoring reality. And just to double down on my unpopular opinion, Diablo 1 was the best game in the franchise.

>“Diablo 1 was the best game in the franchise." That is a bold statement, but I am inclined to agree. Obviously D2 is bigger, prettier, has more varied classes, more items, more everything. I absolutely adore that game, and I have spend hundreds and hundreds of hours playing it. But the original... It just has that darker and more grim, less cartoons tone. Plus it came out when I was 10 years old, which obviously inf…

I say the EXACT thing about StarCraft (vs. StarCraft 2).

Re: How a Diablo expansion led to behind-the-scenes trouble

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"During a milestone check-in with Cyberlore, however, Blizzard’s managers had deemed the work subpar. They cancelled the contract, finished the add-on pack, Beyond the Dark Portal, themselves, and resolved that only an in-house team could nurture a Blizzard property to an acceptable level of quality." I was working at Cyberlore as a playtester when Blizzard pulled the plug on the Warcraft 2 expansion. It was baffling…

How was working on Majesty?

I didnt work on Majesty, myself, but I do remember when my friend Jim came up with the concept. We were walking down the street talking about games, and he said "I want to make an RPG game where the heroes control themselves."

Re: How a Diablo expansion led to behind-the-scenes trouble

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We signed some sort of NDA which for me at this point is buried in 30 years of paperwork.

So you're not sure when it expires?

Yes. To elaborate better, I would imagine most of the people involved probably want to be able to work in the industry again (or are still working in the industry) and are not independently wealthy and are keeping mum about the details they know. At least back then Blizzard the company was pretty secretive and we had to get approval for any media contact - it's probably like any larger organization, everything you see in the media is already pretty curated. The GDC presentation Dave Brevik tells about the Diablo 1 development process is extremely consistent and he's an excellent story teller - I heard almost the exact same thing in abbreviated form during my lunch interview more than 10 years before that and at some other candidates lunch interview when I went to that candidate's lunch as the interviewer.

Re: How a Diablo expansion led to behind-the-scenes trouble

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"During a milestone check-in with Cyberlore, however, Blizzard’s managers had deemed the work subpar. They cancelled the contract, finished the add-on pack, Beyond the Dark Portal, themselves, and resolved that only an in-house team could nurture a Blizzard property to an acceptable level of quality." I was working at Cyberlore as a playtester when Blizzard pulled the plug on the Warcraft 2 expansion. It was baffling…

Wow. Must be quite a shock for you.

Do you know anything about the interactions between Cyberlore and NWC for The Price of Loyalty? I'm generally curious, as I lead a large modding project for that game. (I've gotten a couple case studies out of hacky Cyberlore code.)

Re: How a Diablo expansion led to behind-the-scenes trouble

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>“Diablo 1 was the best game in the franchise." That is a bold statement, but I am inclined to agree. Obviously D2 is bigger, prettier, has more varied classes, more items, more everything. I absolutely adore that game, and I have spend hundreds and hundreds of hours playing it. But the original... It just has that darker and more grim, less cartoons tone. Plus it came out when I was 10 years old, which obviously inf…

I say the EXACT thing about StarCraft (vs. StarCraft 2).

I never got into SC, but yeah definitely.

Re: How a Diablo expansion led to behind-the-scenes trouble

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Somebody should make a dramatized documentary about the making of diablo. It's discussed like every 2 weeks on here, somebody should make a documentary.

Someone should just make a sequel worthy of the name.

A lot of people call Path of Exile a spiritual sequel to Diablo 2.

Re: How a Diablo expansion led to behind-the-scenes trouble

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If it wasn't a typo then I hope you would appreciate it being brought to your attention that it's 'statute', not 'statue'.

Oops, yeah. Definitely a typo. Now I'm picturing a statue of limitations though. Maybe ye old roman style, with the words around the base. :D

Reminds me a little of this scene from Seinfeld: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iq8gfaFqFpI

In fact, I think of that whenever I hear 'statute of limitations'.

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