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Don't Provide Your References to a Recruiter Until After Your Last Interview

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Re: Don't Provide Your References to a Recruiter Until After Your Last Interview

#71

I got an email from a local recruiter a few weeks ago and stepped outside during my lunch break to give her a call. On the initial phone call she asked me where I worked currently. After the call I stepped back into my work where I sit back to back with my manager. No more than 5 minutes later his phone rings, its the recruiter calling to see if they have any need of her services. I emailed her while he was on the ph…

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Re: Don't Provide Your References to a Recruiter Until After Your Last Interview

#72

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Are you legally allowed to mention that? I thought references could only verify if you worked for the company, or otherwise risk being sued. Maybe that's a myth? Regardless, it's pretty odd he would put your company down as a reference after only staying two weeks.

References can say whatever they want.

References can be (and have been) sure for giving a review that keeps a person from getting a job.

If I’m in a position where I can’t give a good reference, I don’t give a reference at all.

Re: Don't Provide Your References to a Recruiter Until After Your Last Interview

#73

I've never had anyone call my references. The most anyone has ever wanted is a W-2 form to prove I worked there. I think it would be kind of unusual. What's the incentive to give an unbiased reference for free? If I didn't like someone, I'd say "oh yeah, they're great", because it's not my problem and I don't want to be held accountable for the person not getting a job. If they are great, I'd say the same thing, of c…

I've personally dealt with many software job reference calls for former colleagues, they do happen.

Re: Don't Provide Your References to a Recruiter Until After Your Last Interview

#74

I got an email from a local recruiter a few weeks ago and stepped outside during my lunch break to give her a call. On the initial phone call she asked me where I worked currently. After the call I stepped back into my work where I sit back to back with my manager. No more than 5 minutes later his phone rings, its the recruiter calling to see if they have any need of her services. I emailed her while he was on the ph…

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Re: Don't Provide Your References to a Recruiter Until After Your Last Interview

#75
If a reference is so weak that they will go after the same job from a reference check or decide not to give you references in the future, you should know better and find someone else.

Each reference should enthusiastically endorse you and want you to succeed. That often means providing several responses, because you are going to go get competitive offers right?

Re: Don't Provide Your References to a Recruiter Until After Your Last Interview

#76
I'd like to also add another tip for fellow Vancouverites:

When a agency recruiters tells you he/she/zir doesn't consider salary as an important metric for gauging quality, hang up immediately, especially when they use a blocked number.

I hate commuting 1.5 hours for a 10 minute interview because the recruiter considers engineers as cannon fodder.

Re: Don't Provide Your References to a Recruiter Until After Your Last Interview

#77

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This is so important! Story time: I once hired someone as a Mid/Senior Dev at a large company in SV who had strong dev skills. Everything seemed great at first and we were very excited to have this person join the team. I respected this dev and had no personal issues with them. Our interactions were positive. However this person quit suddenly after maybe two weeks because they didn't like having to justify their tech…

Are you legally allowed to mention that? I thought references could only verify if you worked for the company, or otherwise risk being sued. Maybe that's a myth? Regardless, it's pretty odd he would put your company down as a reference after only staying two weeks.

You are always at risk of being sued. But if some had listed you directly as a reference you should feel you have more freedom than if you are just listed as a former employer.

Re: Don't Provide Your References to a Recruiter Until After Your Last Interview

#78

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This is so important! Story time: I once hired someone as a Mid/Senior Dev at a large company in SV who had strong dev skills. Everything seemed great at first and we were very excited to have this person join the team. I respected this dev and had no personal issues with them. Our interactions were positive. However this person quit suddenly after maybe two weeks because they didn't like having to justify their tech…

Are you legally allowed to mention that? I thought references could only verify if you worked for the company, or otherwise risk being sued. Maybe that's a myth? Regardless, it's pretty odd he would put your company down as a reference after only staying two weeks.

I think you're thinking of HR being only able to say that the person worked there in some places.

Re: Don't Provide Your References to a Recruiter Until After Your Last Interview

#79
Or only give your references directly to the potential employer at the end of the interviews.

May as well tell the recruiter this is your intent before hand. There are a great many recruiters in the world and it's worth sorting the good from not so good.

Re: Don't Provide Your References to a Recruiter Until After Your Last Interview

#80

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Lawyer up if you can afford it?

This is certainly scummy but how is it illegal?

I'm pretty sure it's illegal in the EU unless you provide explicit consent.
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