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I put all my personal data on eBay

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Post by kelnos »

dymk wrote: post #42
jacquesm wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every time someone on FB shares a picture with other people in it they are doing just that.

TIL when I tag a friend on Facebook I'm also tagging their political beliefs, work history, favorite food, and venereal disease status.

Well, yes. Say you tag a friend in a photo at a political fundraiser, protest, etc. Or you tag them posing by their company's logo, or at a booth their company is running at a trade show. The context of a photo matters, and FB can extract an awful lot of information out of seemingly-innocuous things these days.

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Post by cm2012 »

johndough wrote: post #44
cm2012 wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand this either. The big ad companies have a huge incentive to keep your data secret, so only they can serve you ads. The big privacy danger will always be the government through the ISPs.

Why should the government go through the ISPs if they can get the unencrypted data from facebook.

Because it's a court order either way?

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Post by Nition »

Matticus_Rex wrote: post #32
amasad wrote: post #23

I just finished reading Radical Markets ( http://a.co/7cNafHl ) and it's funny to see this HN story because the last chapter was about "data labor" where the authors claim that we're all working for FB/GOOG/etc to generate data to train the AIs that makes profit for these companies. And that it's time for "data workers of the world to unite" into a "data labor movement" so we can get paid for our work (I found it kin…

> I found it kind of silly but worth thinking about This was my reaction to 95% of the book. Until Radical Markets, I'd never read a nonfiction book that I found so absurd and detached from reality and yet provoked so much useful thought. I worry that others may not realize how detached it is, and that the net effect may not be positive, but we'll see.

> A nonfiction book that I found so absurd and detached from reality and yet provoked so much useful thought.

This is a really interesting category. Makes me think about other books I've read that are a bit like that. I'd probably put Zen And The Art Of Motorcycle Maintenance in there. Maybe Understanding Media by Marshall McLuhan as well.

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Post by X6S1x6Okd1st »

nneonneo wrote: post #30

Context: this fellow (Oli Frost) is something of a social media satirist, having previously built LifeFaker ( http://lifefaker.com/ , a place to buy your way to Instagram fame), and Flopstarter ( http://flopstarter.com/ , a Kickstarter clone for terrible ideas). I found the latest idea pretty funny - actually trying to monetize your data instead of letting companies do it for you is kind of a cute turnabout. In any c…

There are a couple companies that are working in that space:

https://datacoup.com/

https://datawallet.com/#protect

A more detailed reddit thread about them:

https://www.reddit.com/r/beermoney/comments/8btjah/16_passiv...

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Post by mortdeus »

I actually think this is going to be the next big thing. Some sort of data broker app that helps users market their own data for a commission. Like an app that can look at the data and basically say, "okay, so judging by your data, we think you are a big fan of Nike products? Is this something you would like us to market on your behalf and if so would you like to make this data more valuable to advertisers (and yourself) by filling out a survey that provides a better understanding of how important this product is to you?

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Post by mortdeus »

mortdeus wrote: post #76

I actually think this is going to be the next big thing. Some sort of data broker app that helps users market their own data for a commission. Like an app that can look at the data and basically say, "okay, so judging by your data, we think you are a big fan of Nike products? Is this something you would like us to market on your behalf and if so would you like to make this data more valuable to advertisers (and yours…

Like Google surveys that doesn't suck because it only pays in Google Play credit.

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Post by nneonneo »

mortdeus wrote: post #76

I actually think this is going to be the next big thing. Some sort of data broker app that helps users market their own data for a commission. Like an app that can look at the data and basically say, "okay, so judging by your data, we think you are a big fan of Nike products? Is this something you would like us to market on your behalf and if so would you like to make this data more valuable to advertisers (and yours…

OK but why wouldn't you cut out the user as a middleman, and just market to the user directly? If I knew you were a fan of Nike, I could just sell that to Nike directly instead of asking you to in a roundabout fashion.

As many people have observed, the current digital economy really already facilitates you monetizing your data, by allowing you to have access to innumerable resources for free. Those resources don't cost zero to operate, but you pay for them with your data.

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Post by laser »

mortdeus wrote: post #76

I actually think this is going to be the next big thing. Some sort of data broker app that helps users market their own data for a commission. Like an app that can look at the data and basically say, "okay, so judging by your data, we think you are a big fan of Nike products? Is this something you would like us to market on your behalf and if so would you like to make this data more valuable to advertisers (and yours…

Have you seen https://datacoup.com/ ? They've been around for awhile, and I used them for awhile, until I decided the $1 or w/e I was getting per month wasn't really worth it to me, given that I had no idea where my data was going.
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