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Re: Computer History Museum Makes Eudora Email Client Source Code Available

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Post by icc97 »

joshuas wrote: post #67
icc97 wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The difference in code bases is striking [0]: > The Windows version of Eudora is written in C++. The source tree consists of 8,651 files in 565 folders, taking up 458 MB. There are both production (“Eudora71”) and test (“Sandbox”) versions of the code. > The Macintosh version of Eudora is an entirely different code base and is written in C. The source tree consists of 1,433 files in 47 folders, taking up 69.9 MB. [0]…

Back then you didn't have a lot of choice of what language to use, windows was MFC on visual studio and Mac was codewarrior(I think). The Mac and Windows versions were written by two separate teams even though we sat next to each other, and I can't think of any code shared between them, anything we could have shared would have been trivial to write from scratch. I have no explanation for the enormous size of the Mac…

Very interesting. Were you implementing to a spec with the Windows version, or was it simply just 'make the Windows version do what the Mac version does'?

Re: Computer History Museum Makes Eudora Email Client Source Code Available

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Post by behringer »

kome wrote: post #43
jasonjayr wrote: post #2

"Eudora was specifically designed with the idea that standards are a key to successful adoption. Indeed, the rapid acceptance of the Internet is largely due to the standardization process. Published standards are what allow applications from multiple sources to cooperate with each other. Without standards organizations would only be able to use their own applications together, and not those from outside. Also, by all…

Tell that to Gmail people... Edit: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16830156

One of the commenters on that article wrote:

> Well, I think this works differently. The email just includes a link to a Google webpage with the email. It’s still just an email sitting in your inbox. It doesn’t remove itself automatically.

So it's not a standards issue at all.

Re: Computer History Museum Makes Eudora Email Client Source Code Available

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Post by 52-6F-62 »

edmanet wrote: post #11

Damn. The "bad" words have been sanitized. Seeing the programmers' frustrations as they appear in the comments enhances the experience when viewing old code like this.

There are some choice function names in `anal.c` (Mac)

    void AnalScan( void );
It's clearly short for 'analysis', but the child in me couldn't not.

Re: Computer History Museum Makes Eudora Email Client Source Code Available

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Post by alexpotato »

kps wrote: post #66
atesti wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does it do?

Late versions of Eudora added something they called ‘mood watch’, which could highlight potentially inflammatory words or phrases (including profanity) in email and warn you before sending. The developers added a hidden setting which would, when you opened a message, speak aloud precisely those words.

And of course there is a relevant XCKD for this: https://xkcd.com/481/

Re: Computer History Museum Makes Eudora Email Client Source Code Available

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Post by kps »

alexpotato wrote: post #75
kps wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Late versions of Eudora added something they called ‘mood watch’, which could highlight potentially inflammatory words or phrases (including profanity) in email and warn you before sending. The developers added a hidden setting which would, when you opened a message, speak aloud precisely those words.

And of course there is a relevant XCKD for this: https://xkcd.com/481/

In response, YouTube actually implemented this (though only as an option, and it's since been removed): https://blog.xkcd.com/2008/10/08/youtube-audio-preview/

Re: Computer History Museum Makes Eudora Email Client Source Code Available

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Post by s73v3r_ »

djsumdog wrote: post #32
edmanet wrote: post #11

Damn. The "bad" words have been sanitized. Seeing the programmers' frustrations as they appear in the comments enhances the experience when viewing old code like this.

It's funny how in most corporate/commercial code past 2005 or 2010, you'll rarely ever see profanity in comments. I've never put profanity, or even any jokes, in comments. I really try to keep my professional code professional. Even on my own OSS projects I tend not to do that anymore.

I wonder if that's due to the trend of not writing that many comments in your code to start with? Maybe all that has migrated to the version control commit logs?

Re: Computer History Museum Makes Eudora Email Client Source Code Available

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Post by romwell »

behringer wrote: post #72
kome wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tell that to Gmail people... Edit: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16830156

One of the commenters on that article wrote: > Well, I think this works differently. The email just includes a link to a Google webpage with the email. It’s still just an email sitting in your inbox. It doesn’t remove itself automatically. So it's not a standards issue at all.

It's an abuse of the standard.

The email standard was built so that you can check your email with a client, and view the contents offline at your convenience, archive, back up, etc.

Google's email proposal kills this functionality.

When was the last time I used this, you may ask? On Saturday. I was in one of the slot canyons in Utah with zero signal, and, while taking a break, I wrote several emails in my Opera email client, in response to some messages I've procrastinated writing a response to.

The trickery is that the sender might think they're sending a message over email to the recipient, whereas they are sending the message to Google's servers over an internal protocol, and are sending a link to the message to the recipient over email.

Re: Computer History Museum Makes Eudora Email Client Source Code Available

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Post by [deleted] »

jasonjayr wrote: post #2

"Eudora was specifically designed with the idea that standards are a key to successful adoption. Indeed, the rapid acceptance of the Internet is largely due to the standardization process. Published standards are what allow applications from multiple sources to cooperate with each other. Without standards organizations would only be able to use their own applications together, and not those from outside. Also, by all…

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Re: Computer History Museum Makes Eudora Email Client Source Code Available

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Post by squarefoot »

hinkley wrote: post #21
kps wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“The license does NOT allow you to use any of the trademarks or domain names related to Eudora, including Eudora™, www.eudora.com, and www.eudora.org.” — http://www.computerhistory.org/_static/atchm/the-eudora-emai...

Project Neudora on github in 5, 4, 3, 2...

I'd love GNUdora, but probably not doable due to license clashes.
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