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The Stuxnet worm may be the most sophisticated software ever written

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Re: The Stuxnet worm may be the most sophisticated software ever written

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We're quickly heading toward the age of the first Virtual WMD. The implications can be as wide as your imagination, but possibly worse than existing WMDs.

I'm having a hard time imagining a virtual WMD that is worse than the instant obliteration of millions of people.

Presumably the person you replied to is including the potential takeover of nuclear weapons by terrorist hackers, etc.

Re: The Stuxnet worm may be the most sophisticated software ever written

#72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We're quickly heading toward the age of the first Virtual WMD. The implications can be as wide as your imagination, but possibly worse than existing WMDs.

I'm having a hard time imagining a virtual WMD that is worse than the instant obliteration of millions of people.

Think of controllers for say a dam, or an autopilot system in a jet.

Re: The Stuxnet worm may be the most sophisticated software ever written

#73

The scary thing about this is: Stuxnet is one of the "most sophisticated" pieces of malware we have discovered up until now . Who knows what kinds of software are still out there quietly doing their thing in the shadows.

"Russia has hacked into many of our government entities and domestic companies in the energy, nuclear, commercial facilities, water, aviation and critical manufacturing sectors"

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesconca/2018/03/16/russia-ha...

The same was also reported by MI5, Europol and of course within Ukraine.

Re: The Stuxnet worm may be the most sophisticated software ever written

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I've been arguing about this for the last three days. Mostly around the reason that "complexity" is not strictly the same thing as "sophistication" when it comes to software. Noobs will conflate the two, but experienced programmers will agree that -- just to illustrate my point -- some code which solves a complex problem in a very clever way while also being very clean and easy to maintain will be considered strictly…

If you are a state actor, it's not difficult to gather a couple of programmers from the "antivirus" and security field and build something that is hard to detect.

It would be impressive if it was the work of a teenager but it's not.

Re: The Stuxnet worm may be the most sophisticated software ever written

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post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm having a hard time imagining a virtual WMD that is worse than the instant obliteration of millions of people.

Think of controllers for say a dam, or an autopilot system in a jet.

How would either of these be worse than a nuke going off in Hong Kong or NYC?

Re: The Stuxnet worm may be the most sophisticated software ever written

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_When that USB drive is inserted into a Windows PC, without the user knowing it, that worm will quietly run itself, and copy itself to that PC._ Truly magical. Anthropomorphism and personification help continue the myth of sentient, usually evil, software. Whilst scaring the heebie jeebies out of everyone.

Re: The Stuxnet worm may be the most sophisticated software ever written

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post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm having a hard time imagining a virtual WMD that is worse than the instant obliteration of millions of people.

Think of controllers for say a dam, or an autopilot system in a jet.

Which you consider worse than the instant obliteration of millions of people?

Re: The Stuxnet worm may be the most sophisticated software ever written

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post #16

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Well, to be fair, Iran is trying to build a nuclear weapon and wants to wipe out Israel.

To be fair, Iran is not trying to build a nuclear weapon, as it has been proven again and again by the thorough inspections and controls allowed by the JCPOA agreement, which the US have just undermined and probably killed for good.

Err, they absolutely were trying for a nuclear weapon. That’s what Stuxnet and (later) JCPOA were trying to stop.

Re: The Stuxnet worm may be the most sophisticated software ever written

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post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm having a hard time imagining a virtual WMD that is worse than the instant obliteration of millions of people.

Presumably the person you replied to is including the potential takeover of nuclear weapons by terrorist hackers, etc.

I would consider that to be an 'existing WMD' rather than some new 'virtual WMD'
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