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Re: The future of AutoCAD

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The hardware is cheap nowadays compared to the software. Any sub-1k dollar/euro PC will handle most things one would use Autocad for. It's the software that is expensive.

Not if you’re doing 3D. ISV certified laptop with GPU and enough RAM is going to be $2,000

The price you quote is the cost of yearly subscription for just a single program (per station). An architect or engineer will use ~5 such programs on a daily basis for various modeling/analysis tasks.

Re: The future of AutoCAD

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BricsCAD is pretty popular. https://www.bricsys.com/en-us/bricscad/

Wow, $600.

Bricscad has everything AutoCAD has and more such as mechanical design (Inventor like) and sheetmetal and full BIM for things like Architecture and all are still just .dwg!

I have been developing on Bricscad for years and it is far faster with a much less buggy API as well. Bootup times smash AutoCADs :)

Re: The future of AutoCAD

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Isn't that like people wishing for a more lightweight Excel not realizing the "80% of people only 20% of the features" is true but it's not the same 20%? Could you even come up with a financially viable lightweight enough Autocad competitor?

"financially viable lightweight enough" That's the catch, I think. The market is not so large for 3D modeling tools. The second hurdle is the ridiculous amount of inertia DWG has in the AEC industry. Any solution that would topple Autocad would need to likely provide DWG and/or Revit interoperability to even have a shot at the market. There are no good options for Revit at the moment so, that's a deep vendor lock in.…

And there is the revived GPLv3 LibreDWG, which can read most DWG versions. And write support is pretty close. https://savannah.gnu.org/projects/libredwg/

Re: The future of AutoCAD

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The future of AutoCAD is certainly not web, but BIM. Their biggest problem is that BIM standards are national, so have to be provided by third party devs. Which does not allow coming up with proper general solutions for the more technical challenges of working with large BIM projects. Web is only a toy, like the first internet connected AutoCAD versions 2000.

Re: The future of AutoCAD

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post #48

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The hardware is cheap nowadays compared to the software. Any sub-1k dollar/euro PC will handle most things one would use Autocad for. It's the software that is expensive.

Not if you’re doing 3D. ISV certified laptop with GPU and enough RAM is going to be $2,000

Yes but Solid Works or Siemens PLX starts at about $3500 per seat, so the laptop is still going to be only a percentage of the total cost. You can run on GeForce gpus for about $1000 but run the risk of something not being guaranteed.

Re: The future of AutoCAD

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post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The hardware is cheap nowadays compared to the software. Any sub-1k dollar/euro PC will handle most things one would use Autocad for. It's the software that is expensive.

Not if you’re doing 3D. ISV certified laptop with GPU and enough RAM is going to be $2,000

What "ISV certified" means depends quite a bit on what is required.

For a lot of the workloads a sub 1000 PC is enough (I'm in the AEC software industry and am quite familiar what we are talking about).

Take into account that most software in the domain we are discussing is decades old. Some things would work just fine on the lowliest PC you can buy from the cheapest vendor. And yes, sometimes even the most beefiest machine is not enough.

Re: The future of AutoCAD

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Chrome is the new IE

If IE received monthly updates and had one of the fastest JavaScript engines around, it would still be the dominant browser.

IE/edge does recieve monthly updates every patch tuesday for the last several years

Re: The future of AutoCAD

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post #70

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Chrome is the new IE

If IE received monthly updates and had one of the fastest JavaScript engines around, it would still be the dominant browser.

The biggest difference is not technical, rather the way many worship Google vs Microsoft.

Re: The future of AutoCAD

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I hate webapps. What will happen to scripting, application automation? Just have a look, how dumbed down most webapps are when compared to their desktop parts or similare programs as desktop version.

I hate desktop applications. They take a long time to install, they have local file storage that requires me to spend time backing the data up, they eat up disk space on my computer system, they aren't accessible to me if I need to use another computer system, they need to be manually patched and updated, and if I am dependent on them they could restrict my choice of operating system on my desktop. Web apps aren't pe…

The cloud is someone's else computer.

I like to have my stuff on my computer.

Re: The future of AutoCAD

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Maybe some day you'll be able to set FACETRES above 10, or export your NURBS to something other than ACIS.

"export your NURBS to something other" NURBS does not define a single mathematical entity, like a Bezier curve for example does. You can't convert NURBS trivially from one kernel to another. If the implementation is not exactly the same, the transform is unlikely to be mathematically exactly equivalent.

I confess, I left that partially as bait, because I know it's hard (I'm currently trying). It's infuriating to have so much ACIS geometry that is so far away from being available on the well documented kernels without licensing it from Spatial.
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