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Re: How much does Apple know about me? The answer surprised me

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Did we really need a photo of the author holding a prinout of the data? > It kept a copy of every app and song I'd downloaded, every tune I'd added to my iTunes music library, and every time I needed repair on a multitude of Apple devices going back a decade. Is this surprising in any way? If you buy something (or "buy" it for free on the App Store) of course the company you buy it from keeps records of that.

> Is this surprising in any way? If you buy something (or "buy" it for free on the App Store) of course the company you buy it from keeps records of that. It need not; for example it doesn't need historical data that have been superseded; if it no longer has an app available for download it could purge the fact that you bought it; it could give purchasers an anonymized download key that their phone could store (or ca…

I'm not complaining per se, but quite puzzled why someone would downvote this factual comment. Plenty of companies sell you things without maintaining a record (say, a brick and mortar shoe store) and there's typically little reason to do it online either.

Yes, I know plenty of online companies do routinely spy on users but I see no reason to consider this "of course". This is admittedly creeping into meatspace (there's absolutely no legitimate reason for causing things like automatic toll tags or driving licenses to supply privacy-busting data to third parties, but on the other hand plenty of sandwich shops manage to have "frequent diner" programs that are simply a card the customer carries which is punched each time a sandwich is purchased. There is no reason why an online business shouldn't do the same -- and GDPR should drive businesses to do so. It's in the customer's interest.

Re: How much does Apple know about me? The answer surprised me

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you familiar with this patent application? http://ipwatchdog.com/patents/US20090265214.pdf

Oh, the good invention of "Page Has Moved"

Sorry about that. Try these:

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=H...

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=H...

Re: How much does Apple know about me? The answer surprised me

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I have a theory that the only reason Apple is today's beacon of user privacy is that they couldn't manage to compete in either the ad (iAd), mail (at least not at G-scale) or social network world (see: Ping). The only path left for them was to say they were all about user privacy. If Apple had succeeded wildly in any of those three spaces, I think they'd be caught up like Google, Facebook et al. I'm not saying this i…

Microsoft was there in ~2011-2014. Check these out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9x4_dozWkq0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSIlUXOH2iA

From Scroogled to "telemetry" collecting user keyboard input in 4 years.

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