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Will there be a minimum size for a worker node?
Currently it’s our $5 droplet (1GB RAM, 1 vCPU), but if you have a use case for smaller nodes I’d love to hear about it!
What about a competing product to AWS's lambda?
DigitalOcean Introduces Kubernetes Product
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#72Pricing is key. Right now I spin up GCE based clusters as the head and version migration is free and I only pay for 2 non-preemptible adequate nodes. The rest scale and preempt somewhat cheaply as needed.
Eddie from DigitalOcean here. You'll only need to pay for your worker nodes and we'll handle upgrades for you.
Could we entice someone to come do a tech-talk about it at Pivotal NYC? We're on the same avenue, after all. (And think a lot about this too)
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DO support has gone majorly downhill (I have a comment about this that goes into it) in the last year or two with more issues cropping up here and there on hypervisors that go unattended for absolutely no reason. I still haven't found a good alternative but I'm looking.
Linode's support has been excellent though I rarely needed that. for me it's all resolved on their irc channel really quickly. DO support is of concern but I never used that yet. I hope Linode can match up DO's offering(pricing and features) then I will likely stay.
Second that. I was emailing back and forth all last week due to some tricky bind-related rDNS issues on an ipv6 issued 64 block.
While I do wish they built out features faster (their new beta console which seems to have actually dropped features, and things like CertBot plugins for LetsEncrypt wildcard DNS updates), the support is fantastic.
They are always are polite and ready to help, even if the issue turned out to be a misconfiguration problem on my end.
Long live Linode.
Re: DigitalOcean Introduces Kubernetes Product
#74We launched https://www.KubeBox.com beta today. You get a fully managed cluster, control plane and nodes. And you can start with a single node cluster with 8GB RAM and 2vCPU for $36/month. Additionally you can get Rancher auto-installed for managing projects, users, groups, permissions and workloads.
We are in early beta but if you are interested, please sign up and we will activate your account asap.
If you want to talk, we are at KubeCon Europe, contact @geku on Twitter.
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#75This is a great development, but I'll have to wait and see how reliable it actually is. I've had a few droplets running with them over the years, and that has been rock solid (years of uptime on one droplet, no problems whatsoever), but we recently started using Spaces for a commercial product and it has been a catastrophe. There are connectivity issues leaving the service mostly unavailable on a regular basis, and t…
Yeah, DO Spaces is all around awful. Deleting is extremely slow as well. We had to write special code because DO cannot delete 1000 objects at a time (takes like 2 minutes for the api call to succeed, if it succeeds at all). To the extent that we had to just resort to delete entire buckets. The UI also keep crashing when there are many objects :(
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> You're paying for master nodes with StackPoint, right? No, you pay a monthly subscription (starting at 50$/month). The service allows you to create/update clusters easily. I'm not sure, but I think you can create as many clusters as you want with a 50$ subscription (at least I never hit a limit). The procedure to create a new cluster looks something like this, if you use the web interface: * click "add cluster" * s…
That's very interesting, thanks for sharing. $50/mo is a bit for a hobbyist, but not much if you're operating at any serious kind of scale! But I mean, in addition to the StackPoint subscription, you do also pay for the master node droplets when you use it, as well as paying for the worker droplets, right? You won't be paying for those masters anymore with the managed offering, from any of the cloud vendors I've hear…
> But I mean, in addition to the StackPoint subscription, you do also pay for the master node droplets when you use it, as well as paying for the worker droplets, right?
Yes, you pay for all of them, but therefor you get full control of the entire cluster.
> You won't be paying for those masters anymore with the managed offering, from any of the cloud vendors I've heard of announcing a managed offering.
Interesting, I didn't know about that. Not sure if I prefer this though. Might be another "surface" for the cloud providers to lock you in.
> It's really going to come down to, are the managed offerings as good, better, etc than the ones you can install yourself with a tool like kops (or are they as good as the ones that a service such as StackPoint can help you install for yourself?)
I guess things around kubernetes will slow down soon (hopefully) and I'll probably switch to something like kops/playbooks/etc. But right now things are still moving too fast for my taste, so I'm happy to abstract away as much as possible.
> I wonder, did you try installing Kubernetes for yourself before you tried StackPoint? If so, what distro(s) did you try and which ones did or didn't make the cut?
Yes, I experimented with different approaches for Kubernetes, Openshift and Rancher and I tested several cloud providers. In the end I found it wasn't worth the effort to learn and configure the whole thing from the ground up, since everything was constantly changing, like I said. Even if you have your cluster ready there is still a lot of work to be done for the deployment pipelines, cluster backups, etc.. For now I'm happy that creating/destroying a cluster is a matter of hitting a button, but I'm also excited to see what the future brings. Kubernetes is definitely one of the most amazing projects I've come across so far.
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Then why does your marketing for early access say "get a free cluster." Is that implying that Digital Ocean will pay for the worker nodes for early adopters? EDIT: https://www.digitalocean.com/products/kubernetes/ "Sign up for early access and receive a free Kubernetes cluster through September 2018."
Jamie from DigitalOcean here. Yes users won’t pay for their workers, Block volumes or Load Balancers in early access until the end of September 2018.
I've found DO load balancers cannot reliably handle tls termination over 100 connections per second, and fail completely above around 300/s. Are there plans to make the load balancers more robust as part of this change? We had to switch to DNS load balancing because DO's solution simply could not scale.
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Currently it’s our $5 droplet (1GB RAM, 1 vCPU), but if you have a use case for smaller nodes I’d love to hear about it!
What about a competing product to AWS's lambda?
DING DING DING
If you guys offered a lambda competitor with similarly competitive compute/bandwidth pricing I'd be all over it in a second.
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Eddie from DigitalOcean here. You'll only need to pay for your worker nodes and we'll handle upgrades for you.
Could we entice someone to come do a tech-talk about it at Pivotal NYC? We're on the same avenue, after all. (And think a lot about this too)
Jamie from DigitalOcean here. Yes, definitely! Most of this team is remote but myself and a couple of others are NYC based. My email is jwilson@digitalocean.com if you'd like to get in touch.
Re: DigitalOcean Introduces Kubernetes Product
#80So, Kubernetes basically won? Nomad and Swarm don't stand a chance, but what about Mesos or DC/OS?
I don't know if nomad is going for the same problem is it? It seems a great deal simpler to use