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Re: Ask HN: Review my startup CanYouCode.com

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I think people might find some of the statements on the page offensive. Such as the implication that 'real experts' are only found in the west. Or that people from the east work for 'peanuts'. Sure they work for less because they need less to support a decent lifestyle, but that doesn't mean they're working for peanuts.

I realize the intention is good, but there must be another way to get the message out.

Re: Ask HN: Review my startup CanYouCode.com

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The idea is very interesting. I like the idea of minimum $35/hr. To take the idea further, avoid using pricing as a signal, and protect the buyer as well, $35/hr could also be the maximum. That will take rates out of the equation. After that competition will be to get the most rewarding work, with emphasis on work quality. As a developer, I may even be willing to pay a screening fee, if I would be able to get good qu…

$35/hr could also be the maximum

Are you serious? That's about what my wife charges to give horseback riding lessons, and we live out in the country. Near a big city it would be a lot more expensive. I'd like to think that even an average developer should expect more per hour.

Re: Ask HN: Review my startup CanYouCode.com

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I think this is a great idea, but am I the only one who thinks the minimum rate should be more like $70? This would widen the perceived quality gap between this and Elance IMO, but I'm guessing you've probably done a lot of research before settling on $35.

I do not expect to get anyone skilled for $35.00. Perhaps that's an ignorant assumption, but I don't think I'm alone in this. Charge more.

Yes, I think that is an ignorant assumption.

I've hired extremely responsive, very good freelance developers on elance for less than $35p/h.

Although I do agree with the positioning of the site as a 'premium' experience.

If anything, for PR purposes, I'd focus a lot on how difficult it is to get accepted into the site as a developer. May be good to push the rate higher and only accept developers who have a personal recommendation from an already accepted developer. For example, make it similar to how http://www.dribbble.com/ handled their initial invitation process.

This keeps the perceived quality high and will ensure the site has a key marketing differentiator from other outsourcing sites.

Re: Ask HN: Review my startup CanYouCode.com

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Tried to sign up, unfortunately my country which is a part of EU is not there (Poland), but so are others missing. You should at least allow for every EU member to participate when it comes to "europe"

+1 There's not much logic in that country list. I kinda understand (but not really) that Slovenia (my country, part of EU) is not listed there, but Austria, Switzerland, etc are also missing. That means I can't register and give you more feedback.

Actually I DON'T understand it. If it's EU that means there shouldn't be any "law" problems when it comes to users of this country.

And I'm sure your country has many brilliant minds to offer - same as any other country.

Re: Ask HN: Review my startup CanYouCode.com

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I don't think it is fair to discriminate by country, it would be much better to only discriminate by capabilities. What the price is should not matter either, unless you are looking to set up a shop that people will know will overcharge or where the people from the 'west' can set up shop without competition.

IANAL but I imagine having the site open to all countries is a legal nightmare.

How come? It's always tax payers responsibility to pay the tax to "right place". Not site's - its your responsibility to work legally to the letter of law. It's like saying it's a nightmare to export abroad, yet somehow people do that and are profitable.

Re: Ask HN: Review my startup CanYouCode.com

#76
I'm sure you'll get a lot of developers sign up, so the supply side is fine.

But how are you going to generate demand? I know a number of people paying ~$20/hour on elance for developers (usually from Eastern Europe or the Phillipines). None of them are complaining about paying too little (or about the quality, or the language etc).

Your site is right when it says "Great talent does not work for peanuts". But $20/hour is great money in many places - why would someone want to pay more?

Re: Ask HN: Review my startup CanYouCode.com

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IANAL but I imagine having the site open to all countries is a legal nightmare.

How come? It's always tax payers responsibility to pay the tax to "right place". Not site's - its your responsibility to work legally to the letter of law. It's like saying it's a nightmare to export abroad, yet somehow people do that and are profitable.

Are you sure about that? Do you know the tax laws of every single country in the world? Or even your own? Assuming the site is owned by a resident of the US, is it legal for a Cuban to use the site to do business with a US company?

It's not that it's impossible or insurmountable, just that it requires effort that a start up may not be willing or able to put in at release.

Exporting isn't as easy as selling in your native country. People are able to do it because someone went through the effort of studying the laws of the country being exported to and determined that it would be profitable to export to that country.

Re: Ask HN: Review my startup CanYouCode.com

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post #27

The idea is very interesting. I like the idea of minimum $35/hr. To take the idea further, avoid using pricing as a signal, and protect the buyer as well, $35/hr could also be the maximum. That will take rates out of the equation. After that competition will be to get the most rewarding work, with emphasis on work quality. As a developer, I may even be willing to pay a screening fee, if I would be able to get good qu…

$35/hr could also be the maximum Are you serious? That's about what my wife charges to give horseback riding lessons, and we live out in the country. Near a big city it would be a lot more expensive. I'd like to think that even an average developer should expect more per hour.

Couldn't agree more. Don't set a maximum. That's way too low. If you want to be a premium Elance, you can't set a max.

Re: Ask HN: Review my startup CanYouCode.com

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How come? It's always tax payers responsibility to pay the tax to "right place". Not site's - its your responsibility to work legally to the letter of law. It's like saying it's a nightmare to export abroad, yet somehow people do that and are profitable.

Are you sure about that? Do you know the tax laws of every single country in the world? Or even your own? Assuming the site is owned by a resident of the US, is it legal for a Cuban to use the site to do business with a US company? It's not that it's impossible or insurmountable, just that it requires effort that a start up may not be willing or able to put in at release. Exporting isn't as easy as selling in your na…

but its not startups responsibility to take care about that...

And yes i do "export" my services to few countries so i would say i have experience with it.

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