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I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by simonh »

aldanor wrote: post #54
hellofunk wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Gestures changing every month and becoming increasingly complicated with small variations doing different things, inconsistent experience between iPad and iPhone Why would the phone's gesture controls change for you every month?

He might have meant, e.g., that iPhone X has a wildly different set of gestures and shortcuts. Like, guided mode being triple-power instead of triple home, battery/volume/etc menu swiping from upper left corner instead of from below, apps being minimized vía swiping up instead of home button, etc, the list is long.

That's hardly going to be an iPhone only thing though. Any phone that does away with one or more hardware buttons, especially the home button, is going to have to present a new command interface. It's not like going into getting an X that this is going to be some unexpected surprise, and certainly not every month.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by simonh »

dmitriid wrote: post #56
jb1991 wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Even more annoying about the iPhone is the always growing "Other" space on the phone. I was constantly short on disk space with no way of knowing what the cause was or how to clean it up. Hm? There is a very simple Storage page in the Settings that shows you exactly how much storage each app is taking up (including things the app is storing) and it is ordered by size so you can immediately see what's using up your…

I find this area the single most useless display of information on an iPhone. Yes, you can see which app takes how much space. Then what? There is no way to control or clean up that space. You can hope that an app has a setting somewhere that let's you delete old data, and that's it. The biggest offender? Apple's own Photos app especially with iCloud and Photo Stream: there's exactly zero ways to make it give up spac…

What's stopping you deleting photos and videos, or even whole albums in the app? Or syncing photos off and deleting on sync?

Anyway, I'd genuinely be interested in how Android or Android apps solve his problem in better ways.

For a lot of the other issues, it seems like this is a problem with the apps though, not the OS. If Facebook or a podcast app is hogging space, it's up to the app to provide options to manage it's data.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by fasj82 »

dingaling wrote: post #52
chrischen wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The #1 reason is Apple's focus on user privacy and the device's purpose to serve the user through of specific set of features (note I do not mean they give us control of the features, just that they designed it for specific purposes). Apple's business model does not rely on monetizing user data and it shows in its products. At the time I switched (Nexus 5) there were abundant issues with the Android OS from a memory…

> you can't just walk into an Apple store and get an issue fixed The vast majority of people can't do that anyhow due to the rarity of Apple stores. For example there are two on the island of Ireland, for a population of seven million. Most people have to get the i-devices fixed by a third-party just like they do with Android.

Then you call Apple. A guy comes and picks your mobile up, and then another guy comes and gives you a new mobile.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by fasj82 »

techsupporter wrote: post #17
hellofunk wrote: post #8

> Much more transparency about what the phone is doing This is a curious point, especially considering the recent FB Android app revelations about lots and lots of things the phone was doing that nobody realised, things that cannot happen on iOS due to stricter privacy enforcement. I suppose no month is complete without an iOS/Android flame war, but hopefully that won't happen here. For what it's worth, smart phones…

This is the crux of the issue for me: > it's privacy and security, of which Apple is far different I simply don't trust Google to act in my interests when it comes to use of very private data by them or how their operating system permits use of that data. Frankly, I think Android is great. I love myriad things about it: - Set a default e-mail app - Set a default browser that isn't Safari (my kingdom to use Firefox Mo…

>- Background tasks

That's bad

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by cm2187 »

simonh wrote: post #71
aldanor wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He might have meant, e.g., that iPhone X has a wildly different set of gestures and shortcuts. Like, guided mode being triple-power instead of triple home, battery/volume/etc menu swiping from upper left corner instead of from below, apps being minimized vía swiping up instead of home button, etc, the list is long.

That's hardly going to be an iPhone only thing though. Any phone that does away with one or more hardware buttons, especially the home button, is going to have to present a new command interface. It's not like going into getting an X that this is going to be some unexpected surprise, and certainly not every month.

Even the ipad changes gestures regularly.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by fasj82 »

rcheu wrote: post #25
ScottBurson wrote: post #3

Interesting to read this since I'm considering getting an iPhone; so far I've only used Android. Does anyone have comments who has done the switch in that direction?

I switched to iOS this past year after using Android since the G1, and working as an Android developer for the past 5 or so years. Pretty happy with the iPhone X, less happy with iOS 11, I think previous iterations were better. Things I like: * typing feels much nicer, no lag in character input * phone runs much cooler, does not make hand sweaty to hold * far fewer random freezes or lag * password management much bet…

>* some Google apps for iOS don’t seem as good as their android counterparts. YouTube app keeps getting buggy updates, Inbox still doesn’t support full iPhone X screen.

Google is simply sabotaging iOS with all of that. There's no way Google can't afford to pay developers to fix that. They just want to annoy people. My solution was to quit as many Google services as I could.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by rusk »

bdamm wrote: post #16

After 7 years Android user across three phones, I decided to try iPhone. Now 2 years in, on my 2nd, and never going back. Android tends to slowly slide into glitch land and demands you throw away your phone far more aggressively than iPhones do. The 911-crash on Android was the last straw. That's when you call 911, and the phone crashes instead of, you know, calling for help. iPhone might not be latest and greatest.…

I agree. Frustrating and clunky as the iPhone might be at times, it's relatively reliable and stable.

I'm quite happy to use Android on a tablet. It's far closer to a "traditional" operating system in terms of the amount of control you get over everything.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by dogweather »

mrarjen wrote: post #26

I too have used iPhone for the entire smartphone trend so far, and I have been considering getting the Pixel 2 as well, mainly since I keep getting locked out of apple accounts, having weird issues on my device with every new iOS update and the fact I'm basically 99% Google eco system now also with Google photo's, things just seem to work far better and with less friction on Google. I was afraid of the bad quality de…

Yep, exactly the spot I was in. There's definitely been some passing phases of anxiety over whether I've made a huge mistake. :-) But my digital world hasn't collapsed yet, and things are looking good.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by rusk »

rusk wrote: post #77
bdamm wrote: post #16

After 7 years Android user across three phones, I decided to try iPhone. Now 2 years in, on my 2nd, and never going back. Android tends to slowly slide into glitch land and demands you throw away your phone far more aggressively than iPhones do. The 911-crash on Android was the last straw. That's when you call 911, and the phone crashes instead of, you know, calling for help. iPhone might not be latest and greatest.…

I agree. Frustrating and clunky as the iPhone might be at times, it's relatively reliable and stable. I'm quite happy to use Android on a tablet. It's far closer to a "traditional" operating system in terms of the amount of control you get over everything.

Although I've got to say, the headphone jack might be the last straw for me ... my iPhone SE could be my last iPhone if a reasonable alternative materialises ...
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