A rundown of the new Gmail • Hacker News Board

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Apr 25, 2018, 8:30 AM UTC

ry_ry wrote: post #17

gambiting wrote: post #12

Am I the only one that dreads new product updates recently? I used to be super enthusiastic about every new update for everything(cool! more stuff!) but Android, Youtube and Windows 10 updates especially have made me extremely jaded - it feels like every update I either lose some functionality or something I used every day has now moved to a completely different place for no good reason. I seriously consider disablin…

Eventually you become the thing you hate... In Gmail's case, that will eventually be Wave!

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Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Post by hknd » Wed, Apr 25, 2018, 8:30 AM UTC

jamiegreen wrote: post #31

Anyone able to shed any light on what is Google's strategy regarding the Inbox/Gmail split?

It looks like that most of the (useful) features from inbox were moved to gmail, so I would assume that inbox will be gone at some point.

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Post by bambax » Wed, Apr 25, 2018, 8:32 AM UTC

gambiting wrote: post #12

Am I the only one that dreads new product updates recently? I used to be super enthusiastic about every new update for everything(cool! more stuff!) but Android, Youtube and Windows 10 updates especially have made me extremely jaded - it feels like every update I either lose some functionality or something I used every day has now moved to a completely different place for no good reason. I seriously consider disablin…

I hate update and always have.

New products are exciting.

Updates are what product managers do when they don't have any idea for a new product and want to justify their existence. It's like "reforms" in politics.

Successful products should be left alone.

Of course they never will, and we suffer. I understand that complaining about it is like complaining about the weather... yet I can't help myself.

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Post by epaga » Wed, Apr 25, 2018, 8:32 AM UTC

mraison wrote: post #13

I can't see the "Try the new Gmail" setting. Is there a geographic/locale restriction? (I tried switching my account to English without luck)

Same here, in Germany.

Maybe someone could post the link that is behind "Try the new Gmail" - I assume it's just some URL parameter you need to add?

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Post by josteink » Wed, Apr 25, 2018, 8:34 AM UTC

steve19 wrote: post #23

pferde wrote: post #19

"Finally, a new confidential mode allows you to remove the option to forward, copy, download or print messages—useful for when you have to send sensitive information via email like a tax return or your social security number. You can also make a message expire after a set period of time to help you stay in control of your information." No, thanks. I like my e-mail archive under my own control.

Anyone know how this works with IMAP? Does it just not show up in IMAP, otherwise forwarding etc. is trivial (ignoring the fact that you could just screenshot the message and send the screenshot)

> Anyone know how this works with IMAP?

The email contains a link to a site controlled by Google which holds the actual "email's" content.

Forwarding the email will only forward a link to an access-controlled resource.

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Post by pjmlp » Wed, Apr 25, 2018, 8:34 AM UTC

Oh well, I will keep using Thunderbird.

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Post by Applejinx » Wed, Apr 25, 2018, 8:36 AM UTC

hedgew wrote: post #20

gambiting wrote: post #12

Am I the only one that dreads new product updates recently? I used to be super enthusiastic about every new update for everything(cool! more stuff!) but Android, Youtube and Windows 10 updates especially have made me extremely jaded - it feels like every update I either lose some functionality or something I used every day has now moved to a completely different place for no good reason. I seriously consider disablin…

Each year the internet and its services are less and less for hackers and more and more for the general public. This is reflected in how everything is designed. The average person has totally different needs and usage patterns than power users. If you want to avoid this phenomena, where the services you use slowly degrade and lose features, favor products that specifically target power users. Products for the general…

You're assuming changes have any utility towards people in general. There are times changes will be made because they benefit the service provider at the expense of the user, because the service provider's interests are not at all the same thing as the user's interests.

I realize it's axiomatic that 'to serve the customer is self-evidently the best thing for the service provider, because capitalism', but by now I think that is obviously marketing spin to cover actions in self-interest… no matter who claims it. Starkly, obviously false.

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Post by bambax » Wed, Apr 25, 2018, 8:36 AM UTC

> New features on mobile, like high-priority notifications, can notify you of important messages to help you stay focused without interruption.

Err... wat. Explain again how "high-priority notifications" will help me stay focused "without interruption". This is a new level of newspeak. The ringtone is now LOUDER, which will help you enjoy silence.

Anyway, I don't care about any of this. All I want to know is if I'll still be able to disable conversation view in the new interface.

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Post by jbb67 » Wed, Apr 25, 2018, 8:36 AM UTC

Ah,more "improvements"...

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Post by dirtylowprofile » Wed, Apr 25, 2018, 8:36 AM UTC

I don't know but web interfaces are not a thing to me anymore. I am using Airmail for both my personal and work email. Those new features are just meh.