Sounds like a good reason to advocate for IPv6
Russia Bans 1.8M Amazon and Google IPs in Attempt to Block Telegram
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Re: Russia Bans 1.8M Amazon and Google IPs in Attempt to Block Telegram
#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
Their DPI is so dumb that it can be easily bypassed just by editing `Host` to `HOst` in http header. BTW ipv6 adresses are not blocked.
Wait, assuming they're using TLS and certificate-pinning, the DPI shouldn't be able to read the HTTP headers at all. How does that work?
That’s right, but basically dpi sends tcp reset in case of https or 302 redirect in case of http before target server response, since it’s located nearer. There’s a tool to bypass this, so you can read more there. https://github.com/ValdikSS/GoodbyeDPI
Re: Russia Bans 1.8M Amazon and Google IPs in Attempt to Block Telegram
#73Why block Telegram and not .. all the others? Whatsapp, Signal, Viber, ... Are they objecting to the use of encryption? Because everyone uses encryption almost all the time for everything everywhere. The cat has been well and truly released from that bag. Are they just going to turn off the internet altogether?
It's just that Telegram is the most used one in Russia so they proceed by targeting this one first but don't worry they will target the other ones after.
>Telegram is the most used one in Russia
Not even close. Whatsapp and Viber are much more popular. Telegram was barely 3rd before the ban. [1]
Viber moved their data to Russia, they won't get a ban.
Not sure about Whatsapp.
[1]: https://leonardo.osnova.io/bf345b20-423b-c508-cbc2-15963a7af...
Re: Russia Bans 1.8M Amazon and Google IPs in Attempt to Block Telegram
#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
Unfortunately Telegram-FOSS from F-Droid doens't have GCM support so won't be notified about DC updates via push messages. I this particular case the centralization around the push service of google actually helps.
What are DC updates? I always get notifications about Telegram messages on my phone at around the same time (within a second or so) as I get the notification on the web client.
> What are DC updates?
Currently Telegram keep working because it's get new backend IPs constantly via Google Play / AppStore services. Since push notifications are centralized they'll stop working as soon as application removed from stores so app wouldn't be able to get lists of unbanned IPs.
Re: Russia Bans 1.8M Amazon and Google IPs in Attempt to Block Telegram
#75Sounds like a good reason to advocate for IPv6
If IPv6 was used Russia would ban address ranges instead.
Re: Russia Bans 1.8M Amazon and Google IPs in Attempt to Block Telegram
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's just that Telegram is the most used one in Russia so they proceed by targeting this one first but don't worry they will target the other ones after.
>Telegram is the most used one in Russia Not even close. Whatsapp and Viber are much more popular. Telegram was barely 3rd before the ban. [1] Viber moved their data to Russia, they won't get a ban. Not sure about Whatsapp. [1]: https://leonardo.osnova.io/bf345b20-423b-c508-cbc2-15963a7af...
Ah apologies, I thought Telegram was more used than that there.
Re: Russia Bans 1.8M Amazon and Google IPs in Attempt to Block Telegram
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> they’ve started to think national interest/security More like Putin's interest/security.
Finally! As a Russian who immigrated recently I’m endlessly tired of Russia this, Russia that. There is no Russia. There is Putin and Putin only.
Putin is just a face of FSB. You or they can remove him any time - nothing will change simply because of this.
Re: Russia Bans 1.8M Amazon and Google IPs in Attempt to Block Telegram
#78Sounds like a good reason to advocate for IPv6
how would that help?
Re: Russia Bans 1.8M Amazon and Google IPs in Attempt to Block Telegram
#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's just that Telegram is the most used one in Russia so they proceed by targeting this one first but don't worry they will target the other ones after.
>Telegram is the most used one in Russia Not even close. Whatsapp and Viber are much more popular. Telegram was barely 3rd before the ban. [1] Viber moved their data to Russia, they won't get a ban. Not sure about Whatsapp. [1]: https://leonardo.osnova.io/bf345b20-423b-c508-cbc2-15963a7af...
Is Viber even End to End encrypted at all?
Re: Russia Bans 1.8M Amazon and Google IPs in Attempt to Block Telegram
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
Unfortunately Telegram-FOSS from F-Droid doens't have GCM support so won't be notified about DC updates via push messages. I this particular case the centralization around the push service of google actually helps.
What are DC updates? I always get notifications about Telegram messages on my phone at around the same time (within a second or so) as I get the notification on the web client.
Telegram datacenter IPs.