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The church has literally zero power to do anything in the UK. We live in secular societies and I cannot believe your statement is provably true. No church/religion will ever go up against the power of the Chinese state, unless God herself returns to Earth...
The leader of your church has the right to dissolve parliament. She can also refuse to grant assent to a law. That's not zero power.
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#72This is bad. I get that religion has taboos, but religion also has an influence on morals. Yes, there are ways to be a good moral person without the Bible, but are we really giving people agency and the ability to choose if they are sensored? Human rights are human rights and as a human I should have the right to obtain a Bible if I so chose and live the consequences there of.
It's bad because of censorship, not because of any supposed good influence on morals by religion.
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#73That’s... just evil. Even atheists generally support people’s freedom to read and believe as they please.
Do they? Many notable atheists are known for their disdain of Abrahamic religions and how they poison minds of uneducated majority of the world.
It's just easy to mock an overgrown persecution complex and blatant hypocrisy on high-profile Christian/evangelists.
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#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
The church has literally zero power to do anything in the UK. We live in secular societies and I cannot believe your statement is provably true. No church/religion will ever go up against the power of the Chinese state, unless God herself returns to Earth...
> The church has literally zero power to do anything in the UK. That's not for lack of trying and a direct consequence of doing exactly that.[1] Also: (edit: Northern) Ireland is very much a part of the UK and the church has a lot of power there. > We live in secular societies and I cannot believe your statement is provably true. You don't have to believe it, that's fine by me. Having lived in Romania and seeing a po…
Well, that would simplify one of the thorny issues in Brexit, but, no, it's really very much a separate sovereign nation, and not even one of the UKs former possessions that still shares a monarch with the UK.
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#75Any Chinese interested in reading a Bible will just download it. Restricting access to the printed version will have very little impact and will likely increase demand, because banning books usually does that.
You just lost access to public transportation.
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#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The church has literally zero power to do anything in the UK. That's not for lack of trying and a direct consequence of doing exactly that.[1] Also: (edit: Northern) Ireland is very much a part of the UK and the church has a lot of power there. > We live in secular societies and I cannot believe your statement is provably true. You don't have to believe it, that's fine by me. Having lived in Romania and seeing a po…
Only a small and bitterly disputed slice of Ireland is part of the UK.
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#77A friend of mine has a theory that as China grows in power, it will eventually push its own alternative calendar as an ideological statement, as the calendar we currently use is based on the birth of Jesus Christ, something the Chinese government does not particularly care about.
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#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
The church has literally zero power to do anything in the UK. We live in secular societies and I cannot believe your statement is provably true. No church/religion will ever go up against the power of the Chinese state, unless God herself returns to Earth...
> The church has literally zero power to do anything in the UK. That's not for lack of trying and a direct consequence of doing exactly that.[1] Also: (edit: Northern) Ireland is very much a part of the UK and the church has a lot of power there. > We live in secular societies and I cannot believe your statement is provably true. You don't have to believe it, that's fine by me. Having lived in Romania and seeing a po…
Germany's church tax is only paid by members of a particular religion.
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#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
The church has literally zero power to do anything in the UK. We live in secular societies and I cannot believe your statement is provably true. No church/religion will ever go up against the power of the Chinese state, unless God herself returns to Earth...
As long as the voters are controlled by the church, your church has control of your government. In the United States, Christianity has obtained government influence to a shocking degree thanks to huge blocks of Christian voters.
"We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights"...
Show some gratitude for the religion from which grew the very concept of human rights you now take for granted in the West and for the faithful who overthrew monarchs to enshrine those rights, which they believed were given to them by God.
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"Even atheists"? Are atheists pretty evil, but not quite this evil? Are atheists well-known for being anti-freedom? Why "even atheists"?
Atheists have a reputation for being anti-religion. This certainly isn't inherent to Atheism or reflective of all Atheists. However, I have met many Atheists who were highly intolerant or disrespectful of religion.