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Police say shooter’s anger over YouTube policies ‘appears to be the motive’

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if (shooter == muslim) return "terrorist"; else return "mental problem";

multiple return statements should be avoided. It makes the code harder to read. One entry, one exit.

this is not uniformly true. Scripting languages like Python where you usually don't need to clean up dynamically allocated objects actually suggest early return as part of their official style guides.

Re: Police say shooter’s anger over YouTube policies ‘appears to be the motive’

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I would suggest you take a hiatus from watching the news. Go outside and you will find that everything isn't as bad as you think.

Outside of me (NYC) there's homelessness and pollution. I guess that's not so bad? Also, it's not that I think things are bad, it's that I think the increasing concentration of wealth is resulting in increased potential for some event. What event? I don't know, but I doubt it'll be good.

Many people really do not want to think about these things and the potential consequences. History has shown things can break down hard and quickly when there are a multitude of seemingly small bit widespread grievances. This is likely exacerbated now by mass dissemination of information and the sheer complexity of our social and economic system. I am not saying it is likely to happen soon, but I think it is worth being aware of. No society is immune.

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Same result. People will get pissed off when they get categorized in a way they don't like, resulting in less money.

What YouTube needs are editors. Editors get to tell people that their content is garbage or great. The problem with social media is that they don't have people telling the public that their ideas are crap, so everyone thinks they're important.

> What YouTube needs are editors.

Editors don't scale.

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There's no "gun control" question, she was already in the most restrictive anti gun state.

the fact that she can get a gun from any other state makes it a question. gun control laws work when you can't just super easily go to another state to get a gun, the proof being in the much lower number if gun crimes in every other industrialized country where the gun laws are tight in the whole country. That's pretty much every single other industrialized country.

Interesting that those low-restriction states have such low violent crime. In fact, those US counties with zero murders (about half) have the most lax gun control laws.

Were the premise of your comment true, those other states should be the ones with outlandish murder rates. We have guns, we don't abuse guns; what's up with the high-gun-control areas being so prone to such violence that when guns are available they're so readily abused?

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I would suggest you take a hiatus from watching the news. Go outside and you will find that everything isn't as bad as you think.

Outside of me (NYC) there's homelessness and pollution. I guess that's not so bad? Also, it's not that I think things are bad, it's that I think the increasing concentration of wealth is resulting in increased potential for some event. What event? I don't know, but I doubt it'll be good.

Homelessness in the United States has been, slowly but steadily, declining over the last couple of decades, although it's up about 1% this year. It's not getting better fast enough, but the general trend has been slow movement in the right direction. In 2007, there were 647,000 homeless, and by 2016, there was down to 549,000 homeless.

That said, you live in NYC, and so for you the homeless rate has gone WAY up over the last year, to around 4000 people from just 2800 or so last year.

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Yet another licensed and legal weapon.

Yes, but she was able to inflict much less damage with this weapon, a handgun. And with the slower discharge rate and muzzle velocity of handguns, the victims in this case appear to have all survived (other than the perpetrator's suicide).

In the spectrum from full rights to all weapons, to absolute gun control, allowing access to these handguns (where most wounds are survivable, there is less range, and lower magazine capacity) but restricting assault rifles (high muzzle velocities create injuries that are nearly impossible to survive, high magazine count, sometimes higher discharge rate) seems like a reasonable point to draw the line, and also complies with existing case law around the second amendment.

This would have been much, much worse with an AR15 type weapon, with likely far more deaths.

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All of it. It's where nearly all their revenue comes from. There's no remaining business without the ad sales.

First of all, YouTube doesn't make money. Secondly, there are two sides to this equation. The advertisers aren't paying for ads as charity to Google. They want the billions of views that YouTube gets every day. While I don't know the exact statistics, YouTube definitely seems to be growing in influence where people who are popular on the platform are legitimate celebrities. Advertisers would be foolish to not try to…

First of all, even if that's true, YouTube would leak money A LOT FASTER without advertisers.

Okay, there was no second-of-all...

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Yet another licensed and legal weapon.

99.9% of people obtaining a weapon legally don't use it to commit atrocities, but for entertainment. Why should the majority suffer the consequences from the tiny minority of unstable individuals?

Because most forms of entertainment do not dramatically increase the likelihood of death by suicide, homicide, and accidents all at once. If you can name something else that does so, for both the participant and those around them, I can promise you it's well-regulated.

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All of it. It's where nearly all their revenue comes from. There's no remaining business without the ad sales.

First of all, YouTube doesn't make money. Secondly, there are two sides to this equation. The advertisers aren't paying for ads as charity to Google. They want the billions of views that YouTube gets every day. While I don't know the exact statistics, YouTube definitely seems to be growing in influence where people who are popular on the platform are legitimate celebrities. Advertisers would be foolish to not try to…

I'd love to see where you got the idea that YouTube doesn't make any money. As far as I know they don't break out YouTube revenue in any of their filings.

In fact, in each of the filings for 2016 & 2017 the revenue they report is an amalgamation of products that consist of search, ads, commerce, maps, youtube, google cloud, android, chrome, and google play[1][2].

[1] => https://abc.xyz/investor/pdf/20170331_alphabet_10Q.pdf pg 30

[2] => https://abc.xyz/investor/pdf/20160331_alphabet_10Q.pdf pg 28

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Beyond the censorship issues & lawsuits, Google regularly gets a pass when their crummy policies negatively impact people. While it is horrible that some were hurt in the process, I wonder if this will make Google start approaching their huge amounts of power with some civility.

Firstly censorship has nothing to do with this. Her YouTube videos weren’t taken down, just not enabled for advertising.

Secondly, how negatively effected? They stopped paying her for her content. So what. If you buy a Google phone, does google have a right to expect you will buy the next model, and if you don’t you are ‘negatively affecting’ them?

The amount of first world entitlement in this and many other comments here is appalling.

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