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Re: Microsoft calls for dismissal of U.S. Supreme Court privacy fight

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Most bloody? That's objectively true, in terms of total body count, and especially total body count of their own citizens . (Most bloody in terms of deaths per person per year that they had the opportunity to kill is probably the Nazis - although Cambodian Communism, if considered separately from all of communism, probably tops even the Nazis.) Most horrible? It doesn't seem unreasonable to use body count of a countr…

You're lumping a lot of different ideologies together under one umbrella term, even though 1) they were wildly different in practice and implementation, and 2) most of them only paid the tiniest bit of lip service to what Marx envisioned, and 3) were actually just good old tyrannical dictatorships, falsely using the promise of communistic ideals to pacify the populace. Did you read the article? I've found it a very c…

> most of them only paid the tiniest bit of lip service to what Marx envisioned

Oh, the old "no real scotsman" argument. See, the whole communist ideology is like convincing people to jump of a cliff so they can fly: when they inevitably fall to their death, you just tell that since they didn't fly, it wasn't what you envisioned.

Dictatorship and blood is the inevitable outcome of Marx's ideas executed on scale of millions. As inevitable as gravity.

Re: Microsoft calls for dismissal of U.S. Supreme Court privacy fight

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Can this functionality be turned off?

Yes, it's determined by whether the diagnostic data setting is at Full or at Basic. This is presented as a toggle in the initial OS install setup dialog and can be changed later in Settings->Privacy->Feedback & diagnostics. The only change to this since the initial version of Windows 10 (besides reducing the data collected at Basic level to comply with European law and regulations) was that the third, intermediate En…

> Yes, it's determined by whether the diagnostic data setting is at Full or at Basic.

"Basic" does not mean off. So please don't claim that's a "yes" when it's clearly not.

Re: Microsoft calls for dismissal of U.S. Supreme Court privacy fight

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You're lumping a lot of different ideologies together under one umbrella term, even though 1) they were wildly different in practice and implementation, and 2) most of them only paid the tiniest bit of lip service to what Marx envisioned, and 3) were actually just good old tyrannical dictatorships, falsely using the promise of communistic ideals to pacify the populace. Did you read the article? I've found it a very c…

> most of them only paid the tiniest bit of lip service to what Marx envisioned Oh, the old "no real scotsman" argument. See, the whole communist ideology is like convincing people to jump of a cliff so they can fly: when they inevitably fall to their death, you just tell that since they didn't fly, it wasn't what you envisioned. Dictatorship and blood is the inevitable outcome of Marx's ideas executed on scale of mi…

Yet another examples of a completely rigid worldview, no doubt caused by decades of anti-socialism propaganda and indoctrination. There is absolutely no call for the frothing-at-the-mouth reaction so commonly seen from free market/capitalism proponents.

Did you read the article?

https://aeon.co/essays/the-merits-of-taking-an-anti-anti-com...

Marxism and what happened in countries like USSR, China and Cambodia only have an extremely tenuous connection, most of it related to the propaganda fed to the populace to force the tyrannical regime on them, without too much opposition.

Re: Microsoft calls for dismissal of U.S. Supreme Court privacy fight

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> most of them only paid the tiniest bit of lip service to what Marx envisioned Oh, the old "no real scotsman" argument. See, the whole communist ideology is like convincing people to jump of a cliff so they can fly: when they inevitably fall to their death, you just tell that since they didn't fly, it wasn't what you envisioned. Dictatorship and blood is the inevitable outcome of Marx's ideas executed on scale of mi…

Yet another examples of a completely rigid worldview, no doubt caused by decades of anti-socialism propaganda and indoctrination. There is absolutely no call for the frothing-at-the-mouth reaction so commonly seen from free market/capitalism proponents. Did you read the article? https://aeon.co/essays/the-merits-of-taking-an-anti-anti-com... Marxism and what happened in countries like USSR, China and Cambodia only ha…

> no doubt caused by decades of anti-socialism propaganda and indoctrination

Dude, I live and Moscow. My whole family survived 70 years of communism. I seen first hand how capitalism and free markets raised us from hunger and poverty to first world country living standards.

Please, don't make assumptions about people on the internet, you may end up completely wrong.

Re: Microsoft calls for dismissal of U.S. Supreme Court privacy fight

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Yes, it's determined by whether the diagnostic data setting is at Full or at Basic. This is presented as a toggle in the initial OS install setup dialog and can be changed later in Settings->Privacy->Feedback & diagnostics. The only change to this since the initial version of Windows 10 (besides reducing the data collected at Basic level to comply with European law and regulations) was that the third, intermediate En…

> Yes, it's determined by whether the diagnostic data setting is at Full or at Basic. "Basic" does not mean off. So please don't claim that's a "yes" when it's clearly not.

Yes, it prevents the scenario (user content files being included in diagnostic data) that you'd written about, and that the question was about. It doesn't turn off all diagnostic data, but that wasn't the question.

Re: Microsoft calls for dismissal of U.S. Supreme Court privacy fight

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Yet another examples of a completely rigid worldview, no doubt caused by decades of anti-socialism propaganda and indoctrination. There is absolutely no call for the frothing-at-the-mouth reaction so commonly seen from free market/capitalism proponents. Did you read the article? https://aeon.co/essays/the-merits-of-taking-an-anti-anti-com... Marxism and what happened in countries like USSR, China and Cambodia only ha…

> no doubt caused by decades of anti-socialism propaganda and indoctrination Dude, I live and Moscow. My whole family survived 70 years of communism. I seen first hand how capitalism and free markets raised us from hunger and poverty to first world country living standards. Please, don't make assumptions about people on the internet, you may end up completely wrong.

In that case you should also have noticed the crushing poverty "enjoyed" by many Russians, while the über-capitalist oligarchs live in outrageous luxury.

If you think the majority of people in Russia enjoy a first world standard of living, you're sorely mistaken. Moscow is very much an outlier.

Re: Microsoft calls for dismissal of U.S. Supreme Court privacy fight

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> no doubt caused by decades of anti-socialism propaganda and indoctrination Dude, I live and Moscow. My whole family survived 70 years of communism. I seen first hand how capitalism and free markets raised us from hunger and poverty to first world country living standards. Please, don't make assumptions about people on the internet, you may end up completely wrong.

In that case you should also have noticed the crushing poverty "enjoyed" by many Russians, while the über-capitalist oligarchs live in outrageous luxury. If you think the majority of people in Russia enjoy a first world standard of living, you're sorely mistaken. Moscow is very much an outlier.

> In that case you should also have noticed the crushing poverty "enjoyed" by many Russians

Compared to Soviet Union, modern Russia is light years ahead. Of course, all this progress is built on the foundation laid down in the 90s, and is slowly deteriorating away for the last 10 years.

Re: Microsoft calls for dismissal of U.S. Supreme Court privacy fight

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"Benevolent" = "wanting to do good". But that applied (I think) even to the Communists. They wanted to free the proletariat from oppression. That was their moral imperative. To do it, they were willing to execute their "oppressors". The temptation to have mercy on some of the oppressors rather than execute them had to be resisted, because it would hinder the cause. [Edit: reworded for clarity.]

So by that definition, should an ideal dictator stand by and watch if there is an invasion? Because resisting it would be likely be killing the invaders? So I think there is always an Idea of the subset of people you are meant to serve, and their well being being your highest priority. In your example, the "proletariat" were that subset, so it is only their duty to protect them from oppression.

Sure. But in protecting the proletariat from oppression, they "protected" a fair number of the proletariat right into the grave.

Re: Microsoft calls for dismissal of U.S. Supreme Court privacy fight

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So by that definition, should an ideal dictator stand by and watch if there is an invasion? Because resisting it would be likely be killing the invaders? So I think there is always an Idea of the subset of people you are meant to serve, and their well being being your highest priority. In your example, the "proletariat" were that subset, so it is only their duty to protect them from oppression.

Sure. But in protecting the proletariat from oppression, they "protected" a fair number of the proletariat right into the grave.

> they "protected" a fair number of the proletariat right into the grave.

If that is so, how they are benevolent in the first place, or "wanting to do good" as you say?

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