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Marta, file manager for macOS, goes beta

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Re: Marta, file manager for macOS, goes beta

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Post by tambourine_man »

vbezhenar wrote: post #68
darek wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been using Nimble Commander for a while now. Snappy, similar to Total Commander on Windows and I love it. The developer recently made it open source and published the code on GitHub here: https://github.com/mikekazakov/nimble-commander I'm not sure if that's the kind of open source you were looking for, but may be worth checking out.

Wow. When I used macOS, I used this manager a lot and it's awesome. Now Open Source, it's even more awesome.

I didn’t know it was made open source either. Great news.

Re: Marta, file manager for macOS, goes beta

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Post by azinman2 »

ReverseCold wrote: post #28
mrgordon wrote: post #25

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This all or nothing mentality doesn't often end up being useful in practice. For example, try doing some deep learning on Linux with CUDA without installing closed source NVIDIA drivers. The important detail is who provided the software and in this case most people are going to trust Apple or NVIDIA significantly more than a small third-party software developer they've never heard of. (FWIW many of us tried running L…

Linux is actually good now for desktop use. I install it (= Fedora or Antergos w/ GNOME) on everything now and it just works(tm). Not a single thing has been broken across two modern PCs and a laptop.

Question is “good for what?”

It simply doesn’t have the polish, or flexibility that I’d need to effectively stay on it for long. I always end up spending longggg times customizing things only to feel little integration, little support, and a lack of decent third party software. Sketch is Mac only. Spotify barely has a Linux client. Certainly no photoshop, medocire native email clients, zero IM that integrate with any networks I use (sms/iMessage), etc etc. Yes there’s lots of options as a webpage, but that’s a shallow substitute.

If you happen to need only the stuff that’s available, and your workflow is largely CLI-driven, then it’s probably fine. Otherwise it’s macOS for me.

Re: Marta, file manager for macOS, goes beta

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Post by 2muchcoffeeman »

michaelmrose wrote: post #64
mrgordon wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This all or nothing mentality doesn't often end up being useful in practice. For example, try doing some deep learning on Linux with CUDA without installing closed source NVIDIA drivers. The important detail is who provided the software and in this case most people are going to trust Apple or NVIDIA significantly more than a small third-party software developer they've never heard of. (FWIW many of us tried running L…

Instead of buying whatever windows/mac computer looks like a good deal and hoping it runs linux buy with linux in mind and you will have an easier experience.

I have a HP Laptop on the Ubuntu Desktop Certified list (https://certification.ubuntu.com/desktop/).

Since day one, every time I boot up there has been some sort of display error. The networking has never worked correctly.

Desktop linux needs to do what Apple did. Pick a hand full of laptops and desktops (or just ditch desktops) with some combination of hardware and just support those.

Until then, it's always going to be an "it works for me" situation.

Re: Marta, file manager for macOS, goes beta

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Post by tesseract »

kiaulen wrote: post #69
gedy wrote: post #63

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In general what is it that people love about dual pane file managers? I love alternate UIs but I've never understood this one.

If you only use a file manager for browsing/opening files, a single window makes sense. But as soon as you want to do a copy/cut and paste, you end up having to browse back and forth between two directories anyway. Dual pane is optimized for that workflow.

The canonical 80s/90s Mac OS answer would be, just open 2 (or 3 or 4 or n) file browser windows next to each other. Arguably the workflow of moving/copying stuff between windows was a key motivator for the creation of windowing systems in the first place. But today that multi-window workflow, while of course still possible, somehow feels less salient... the DOS/MDI-era Windows UI norm of "one window ≈ one application" seems to have taken over culturally as a baseline expectation for how GUIs should work - perhaps reinforced by non-windowed smartphone OSes these days as well.

Re: Marta, file manager for macOS, goes beta

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Post by 2muchcoffeeman »

azinman2 wrote: post #72
ReverseCold wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Linux is actually good now for desktop use. I install it (= Fedora or Antergos w/ GNOME) on everything now and it just works(tm). Not a single thing has been broken across two modern PCs and a laptop.

Question is “good for what?” It simply doesn’t have the polish, or flexibility that I’d need to effectively stay on it for long. I always end up spending longggg times customizing things only to feel little integration, little support, and a lack of decent third party software. Sketch is Mac only. Spotify barely has a Linux client. Certainly no photoshop, medocire native email clients, zero IM that integrate with any…

Still my preferred dev environment. Mature package management, best CLI. But those little things makes me want a Mac at work.

Re: Marta, file manager for macOS, goes beta

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Post by aneidon »

yeasayer wrote: post #7

I don't like that file operations are controlled by F1-F8 keys. This UX is unfriendly to macOS environment. Most users' F-row is in media keys mode by default, so you have to hold Fn otherwise. And I'm not even taking into account the Touch Bar.

I use https://github.com/Pyroh/Fluor to change whether the function keys or the media keys show up based on the application in the foreground.

It works quite well for me.

Re: Marta, file manager for macOS, goes beta

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Post by userbinator »

tesseract wrote: post #75
kiaulen wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you only use a file manager for browsing/opening files, a single window makes sense. But as soon as you want to do a copy/cut and paste, you end up having to browse back and forth between two directories anyway. Dual pane is optimized for that workflow.

The canonical 80s/90s Mac OS answer would be, just open 2 (or 3 or 4 or n) file browser windows next to each other. Arguably the workflow of moving/copying stuff between windows was a key motivator for the creation of windowing systems in the first place. But today that multi-window workflow, while of course still possible, somehow feels less salient... the DOS/MDI-era Windows UI norm of "one window ≈ one application…

I'm mainly a Windows user and I regularly have a dozen or more explorer windows open, all showing directories of interest to my current work. From that perspective, using a file manager with only two effective "windows" feels more constraining.

Re: Marta, file manager for macOS, goes beta

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Post by ssijak »

userbinator wrote: post #78
tesseract wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The canonical 80s/90s Mac OS answer would be, just open 2 (or 3 or 4 or n) file browser windows next to each other. Arguably the workflow of moving/copying stuff between windows was a key motivator for the creation of windowing systems in the first place. But today that multi-window workflow, while of course still possible, somehow feels less salient... the DOS/MDI-era Windows UI norm of "one window ≈ one application…

I'm mainly a Windows user and I regularly have a dozen or more explorer windows open, all showing directories of interest to my current work. From that perspective, using a file manager with only two effective "windows" feels more constraining.

there are tabs/windows in dual pane file managers
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