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Personal Reason for Hating Facebook (2015)

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Re: Personal Reason for Hating Facebook (2015)

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Post by pmlnr »

brianfitz wrote: post #15

I remember reading this when it was originally posted years ago and have had time to think about the implications. I am just over 40, so most of my class reunions were organized through Facebook and was amazed at the turn-out possible because of these new social networks. For my mother, there were simply people she no longer knew how to reach — including one of her best friends from childhood. Years went by until Fac…

If you lost contact so long ago, it migt be better to leave it like that: https://thoughtcatalog.com/stephanie-georgopulos/2011/08/a-l...

Re: Personal Reason for Hating Facebook (2015)

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Post by osoba »

A few months ago I won about $200 worth of Amazon gift card codes. Since nothing from Amazon delivers to my country I decided to give them to an American friend of mine. I remember it was late for him when I sent him the codes over Facebook so he only used up one right away and then went to sleep.

The next morning, however, the other coupons were all used up. He claims nobody else has access to his FB messages and I never bothered to actually check the validity of the codes on Amazon, so there is enough room for plausible deniability, but this coincided in time with this reddit post https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/79x7u3/facebook_em... and now there's that nagging feeling in the back of my mind that some underpaid 3rd world facebook employee read through the messages and decided to use the codes themselves.

I don't know, this is all probably a stretch, but that moment reached a new low for Facebook in my mind (not that my opinion of them was high before).

Re: Personal Reason for Hating Facebook (2015)

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Post by drosan »

So that person calls himself/herself an "introvert" (I hate when ppl justify their lifestyle with that word btw) then complains than he never got to class reunion. Then throws some stronger motives about his friend suicide yet griefs more about inability to "say goodbye" or "i feel responsible and hurt".

And overall says about facebook hate but, like, it is just a platform, a technology; it all starts and ends up with people, so he'd better say "I hate people but want their attention but don't want to tell 'em that by owning a facebook profile".

Re: Personal Reason for Hating Facebook (2015)

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Post by vmokry »

osogolo wrote: post #63

I empathize a lot with this guy. I wanted to share my recent story: I unfollowed every single person and page I'm connected to on Facebook a month and a half ago. Every time I look at a Facebook there's just about no value. My feed is empty. Nevertheless, I'll visit it by habit. It's weird to see how that persists. I am not posting (never really did anyway), and I have no idea what's going on with the people I didn't…

I remember when I tried to do the same thing three years ago (the year before I deleted my account) – Unfollow every person. AFAIK I had 600+ contacts.

What was funny, after ~300 clicks I got the captcha to fill and 14 clicks later week block with a message: "This is not a proper using of the function". Also, FB was hypocritical. It allowed me to click to follow again, just unfollow was blocked. :-)

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Post by exDM69 »

brianfitz wrote: post #15

I remember reading this when it was originally posted years ago and have had time to think about the implications. I am just over 40, so most of my class reunions were organized through Facebook and was amazed at the turn-out possible because of these new social networks. For my mother, there were simply people she no longer knew how to reach — including one of her best friends from childhood. Years went by until Fac…

> The point being, it is just as likely that the writer of this post wasn’t left out any more than he would have been in the past.

Although this may apply to OP's problem(s), it's not really the case everywhere. I'll give you two counterexamples:

1) A friend of mine is required to have a facebook account for school (woodworking trade school). They say "you can always create one with a fake name" but that's obviously a TOS violation and may cause the account to be deleted at any time (making schoolwork really difficult).

2) My basketball group has decided to organize things on WhatsApp, again requiring you to accept FB's EULA. I refuse to do so, which results me in missing quite a few occasions to play and finding myself alone in the gym when practice has been called off.

Neither of these things were done on facebook in the past. Yes, it might be more convenient to do so (for the organizing party) but it'll leave a bunch of people out who refuse to sign carte blanche EULA for a company that preys on our personal information and influences our voting behavior.

Both of these cases are examples where email or phone would be acceptable, but it's (only) slightly more convenient to use social media for those who are a part of it.

Re: Personal Reason for Hating Facebook (2015)

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Post by mattmanser »

komali2 wrote: post #26
brianfitz wrote: post #15

I remember reading this when it was originally posted years ago and have had time to think about the implications. I am just over 40, so most of my class reunions were organized through Facebook and was amazed at the turn-out possible because of these new social networks. For my mother, there were simply people she no longer knew how to reach — including one of her best friends from childhood. Years went by until Fac…

Agreed. Furthermore, Facebook doesn't require your work history or any of the other things the author claims is it's blood payment cost of entry. Last I checked it needs a valid email address, name, and password. I've stripped most of my personal information off Facebook and now just use it as a messaging app and a "find me by name" sort of internet yellow pages thing.

It also requires that you allow it to then track you all over the internet, associate that activity with your name and email and social graph, and then sell it to advertisers allowing them to target your activity and your friends elsewhere on the web.

Re: Personal Reason for Hating Facebook (2015)

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Post by w0utert »

mattmanser wrote: post #76
komali2 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. Furthermore, Facebook doesn't require your work history or any of the other things the author claims is it's blood payment cost of entry. Last I checked it needs a valid email address, name, and password. I've stripped most of my personal information off Facebook and now just use it as a messaging app and a "find me by name" sort of internet yellow pages thing.

It also requires that you allow it to then track you all over the internet, associate that activity with your name and email and social graph, and then sell it to advertisers allowing them to target your activity and your friends elsewhere on the web.

Exactly this. My girlfriend uses the same reasoning to downplay the level of tracking Facebook can do on her. 'Yes I use Facebook, but I don't put any personal information on it, and I have everything set to private'.

The problem is, that after you sign up and enter only your e-mail address, Facebook will fill in all the blanks for you, without needing any interaction from your side...

Re: Personal Reason for Hating Facebook (2015)

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Post by jacquesm »

bigiain wrote: post #69
jacquesm wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

True, but that's something your cell provider (and the providers of other base stations your phone has pinged) has access to, not your typical website. But you are 100% correct that the cell network knows to within a rough approximation where you are and how fast you travel. This information is also used to predict where and when the next cell-hand-off will happen.

Yep - as always in security, it's important to know who your adversary is. If your adversary is the NSA(/GRU/Mossad/etc) - you're fucked. Throw away all your electronic devices, torch your house, and hope you make it to Belize before they shut the borders to you. If your adversary is Law Enforcement, they'll get cell tower data (quite likely without a warrant by just asking), and they'll then mislead a court and jury…

> With Facebook's warchest - what do you reckon the chances are of them _not_ buying cellphone location data on the open market to add to their advertising-marketing machine?

I don't think they would have to pay for it. They're just going to give the phone company a nice fat discount on their advertising campaign. That way they don't have to own up to selling your data either, win/win. /s

Mobile phone location data is so valuable that there are whole companies dedicated to 'enriching' mobile phone OpenRTB requests with location data.

https://www.iab.com/guidelines/real-time-bidding-rtb-project...

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