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Re: YouTube and Reddit roll out new restrictions including channel and sub bans

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Post by yequalsx »

zombieprocesses wrote: post #64
yequalsx wrote: post #28

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I'm not a gun owner. Indeed I'm very much opposed to people being able to own guns and hope that someday they will be banned in the U.S. I do understand your perspective and why this is upsetting to you. For me I see it as a step toward people being more anti-gun ownership. Societies evolve and social views change. Our views on marijuana, smoking, etc. have changed over the decades. I hope I am now seeing the beginni…

> Societies evolve and social views change. That's why we have principles and constitutional rights. So that our rights aren't taken away on a whim of societal change. I'm from NY and I've never owned a gun and I probably will never do so. But even I would be against repealing the 2nd amendment. The fact that people here are so openly talking about repealing the 2nd amendment and taking away more of our rights is rea…

The 2nd Amendment does speak of a well regulated militia and it being necessary for the defense of the United States. I'm in favor a well regulated militia. I'm not a lawyer and have no expertise on the legalities but I do know that amendments can be repealed. There is nothing unconstitutional about repealing an amendment. The Constitution details the mechanism for amending it.

Re: YouTube and Reddit roll out new restrictions including channel and sub bans

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Post by boobun »

jayess wrote: post #5

Who wants to open a free-speech based forum site?

gab.ai and minds are pretty good free speech sites.

but i suspect people actually want echo chambers these days where they never have to think about their enemies or political reality ... echo chambers for all

Re: YouTube and Reddit roll out new restrictions including channel and sub bans

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Post by 4d66ba06 »

yequalsx wrote: post #71
zombieprocesses wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Societies evolve and social views change. That's why we have principles and constitutional rights. So that our rights aren't taken away on a whim of societal change. I'm from NY and I've never owned a gun and I probably will never do so. But even I would be against repealing the 2nd amendment. The fact that people here are so openly talking about repealing the 2nd amendment and taking away more of our rights is rea…

The 2nd Amendment does speak of a well regulated militia and it being necessary for the defense of the United States. I'm in favor a well regulated militia. I'm not a lawyer and have no expertise on the legalities but I do know that amendments can be repealed. There is nothing unconstitutional about repealing an amendment. The Constitution details the mechanism for amending it.

This podcast episode on the Second Amendment was fascinating as it discusses how the US Courts interpretation of the second amendment changed http://www.radiolab.org/story/radiolab-presents-more-perfect...

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Post by yequalsx »

TheAdamAndChe wrote: post #70
_frog wrote: post #58

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In the same way other countries who've banned firearms have carried it out? It's not like there's no precedent for this if you look outside of America.

America isn't other countries. Guns are as ingrained in rural America's culture as lifted trucks and beer. There would literally be armed revolts if the government tried taking peoples' guns away en masse.

What's interesting is that rural America was in favor of increased gun control in the 1960s when blacks started to assert their right to own guns. Ultimately peoples' attitudes can be swayed and changed and it isn't really hard to do it. Witness our embracing of torture, taking shoes off to board an airplane, fear of sharia law, etc.

Re: YouTube and Reddit roll out new restrictions including channel and sub bans

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Post by yequalsx »

4d66ba06 wrote: post #73
yequalsx wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The 2nd Amendment does speak of a well regulated militia and it being necessary for the defense of the United States. I'm in favor a well regulated militia. I'm not a lawyer and have no expertise on the legalities but I do know that amendments can be repealed. There is nothing unconstitutional about repealing an amendment. The Constitution details the mechanism for amending it.

This podcast episode on the Second Amendment was fascinating as it discusses how the US Courts interpretation of the second amendment changed http://www.radiolab.org/story/radiolab-presents-more-perfect...

Thank you for the link. I'll listen to it later.

Re: YouTube and Reddit roll out new restrictions including channel and sub bans

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Post by zombieprocesses »

yequalsx wrote: post #71
zombieprocesses wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Societies evolve and social views change. That's why we have principles and constitutional rights. So that our rights aren't taken away on a whim of societal change. I'm from NY and I've never owned a gun and I probably will never do so. But even I would be against repealing the 2nd amendment. The fact that people here are so openly talking about repealing the 2nd amendment and taking away more of our rights is rea…

The 2nd Amendment does speak of a well regulated militia and it being necessary for the defense of the United States. I'm in favor a well regulated militia. I'm not a lawyer and have no expertise on the legalities but I do know that amendments can be repealed. There is nothing unconstitutional about repealing an amendment. The Constitution details the mechanism for amending it.

> There is nothing unconstitutional about repealing an amendment. The Constitution details the mechanism for amending it.

I didn't say it was unconstitutional. The constitution makes it very difficult to repeal for a reason.

It's why only 1 amendment has ever been repealed and that amendment was written nearly 150 years after the founding of the country.

I'm fairly certain that the 1st and 2nd amendment are pretty much untouchable.

But I wish you the best in trying to get it repealed. The more you try to get it repealed, the more people will support the 2nd amendment and remind people that we actually have rights that we need to protect lest it be taken from us.

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Post by collias »

CaptSpify wrote: post #49
collias wrote: post #31

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Why not an iPhone? At least Apple seems to care about privacy, and they aren't an ad-tech company like Google or FB.

Apple pretends to care about privacy as long as it is good for the bottom line.

Could you explain what you mean? I’m genuinely curious if Apple has taken an anti-privacy stance.

From what I can tell, they’re the best tech giant for user privacy. They’ve fought the FBI in court to not put in a government backdoor to unlocking user’s devices. Lawyers ain’t cheap.

Re: YouTube and Reddit roll out new restrictions including channel and sub bans

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Post by yequalsx »

zombieprocesses wrote: post #76
yequalsx wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The 2nd Amendment does speak of a well regulated militia and it being necessary for the defense of the United States. I'm in favor a well regulated militia. I'm not a lawyer and have no expertise on the legalities but I do know that amendments can be repealed. There is nothing unconstitutional about repealing an amendment. The Constitution details the mechanism for amending it.

> There is nothing unconstitutional about repealing an amendment. The Constitution details the mechanism for amending it. I didn't say it was unconstitutional. The constitution makes it very difficult to repeal for a reason. It's why only 1 amendment has ever been repealed and that amendment was written nearly 150 years after the founding of the country. I'm fairly certain that the 1st and 2nd amendment are pretty mu…

I grew up a Reagan Republican in the Canal Zone. At that time I never thought I would see the U.S. (much less conservatives) embrace torture, mass surveillance, things like the Patriot Act, renditions, and other such things that have become commonplace. People haven't been particularly assertive of their right to free speech. Few complained when Clinton instituted "free speech" zones at major political events. Now such is commonplace.

It does not stretch my imagination to see people being fed up with it being legal to own firearms with the lethality that is currently allowable. I may be wrong. Fight for your rights. Be vigilant. I will continue to advocate for repealing the right to own guns. I may never see my vision come to fruition.

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Post by ameister14 »

yequalsx wrote: post #62
cuckcuckspruce wrote: post #39

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Offtopic: What legal mechanism do you propose to use to ban the private ownership of firearms in the United States of America? Edit: Additionally, what do you want done about all of the currently legal guns that exist in this country when this ban goes into effect?

I would like it to be illegal for people to own guns. Those who violate the law (as the ban would be in the form of a law) would go to jail. Current owners would turn in their guns and those guns would be destroyed. The 2nd Amendment is oddly worded. It does speak of a well regulated militia. I'm not a lawyer or a legal expert but it seems to me that banning the ownership of guns except for members of the militia sho…

> It also seems to me that for those who tend toward original intent interpretations (majority of current Supreme Court) would agree that the founders only saw it fit that people be able to own guns with similar firepower and lethality as muskets.

You'd be wrong there. The Supreme Court agrees that the founders saw fit that people are armed with weapons similar to those used by the military, with certain restrictions.

Re: YouTube and Reddit roll out new restrictions including channel and sub bans

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Post by superkuh »

kadenshep wrote: post #46
superkuh wrote: post #18

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It has reached that point. I'm moving to voat.

Let us know what kind of riveting discussions you have with racists, sexists, and conspiracy theorists.

You have to be the change you want to see. I have no problem with other people holding views which I think are disgusting. The only thing I have a problem with is censorship.

H. L. Mencken quote is applicable here, "The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all."

edit, The one thing I'm finding I really don't like about Voat is that it requires whitelisting Javascript from google domains in order to be able to post.

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