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Lyft says its revenue is growing nearly 3x faster than Uber’s

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Re: Lyft says its revenue is growing nearly 3x faster than Uber’s

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Why do you think HN hates companies that are doing well for themselves? Doing this is way more exhausting than cheering them on (see SpaceX, people have fun in those posts). "Oh this company is doing well and I'm jealous"? Seriously don't know how that's enough. There's a slightly less nefarious interpretation which is that people have different values, and disagreement happens. So many people are extremely happy to…

Are you sure about your first assertion? It is well known that HN is gratuitously negative about everything. SpaceX is the exception, rather than the rule - and you'd be hard pressed to find another company with quite such a positive reputation on HN.

I attribute SpaceX and Tesla love to the "ask a kindergartner what they want to be" phenomenon.

Everyone, regardless of field, can relate to rockets and cars.

Far fewer people would relate to, say, optimizing insurance benefit payments.

Re: Lyft says its revenue is growing nearly 3x faster than Uber’s

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Google wasn't the first search engine... Apple didn't sell the first smartphone or tablet... Facebook wasn't the first social media site... Amazon wasn't the first to sell shit online... And Lyft wasn't the first ride-sharing app. Maybe being first to market is overrated?

I'll give you the other ones, but I'll challenge the Amazon example. Sure, there may have been other small sites selling stuff online, but Amazon definitely was a first mover in selling lots of stuff at volume. With all your other examples I can name the companies the later movers overtook (e.g. Google -> Yahoo/Alta Vista, Apple -> Blackberry, Facebook -> Myspace), but I think the first time I bought something online…

Amazon was a leap up from other online booksellers, just as Google was a leap up from other search engines...

Lyft isn't a leap up from Uber. But I do stick with Lyft because Uber's been so cold.

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Everyone I know gets an "uber" regardless of whether they're using Lyft, Uber, or any other ride sharing service which is not a taxi.

Great! Now let's get out there and educate, because Uber is truly a disgusting organization at the top. I am sure once they have died, their engineers can find spots at Lyft as something will need to pick up the void, so no need to worry there Uber devs reading this.

Actually, pretty much everyone at the top already left Uber about six months ago or so

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Incidentally, my experience with Lyft here in Canada has been pretty dismal. On average pretty terrible drivers. I have a feeling Lyft is getting all the Uber rejects. If that's the case, this is going to derail Lyft's Canadian debut pretty badly. I wonder if this is a common problem when they come into an Uber-dominated market.

I've seen these anecdotes one way or the other (pro/anti Uber/Lyft/whatever) and I think they're all pretty useless when trying to extrapolate to the broader population. One thing that is abundantly clear, at least in the US city where I live, is that Uber and Lyft are pushing hard for the same pool of drivers; many drivers drive for multiple ride share services. I'm extremely skeptical of "one company's drivers are…

Agreed, every driver I’ve asked is on both apps and switches freely to make money.

They might stick with one for a bit to get certain bonuses but there’s no long term loyalty for any of them.

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I'll give you the other ones, but I'll challenge the Amazon example. Sure, there may have been other small sites selling stuff online, but Amazon definitely was a first mover in selling lots of stuff at volume. With all your other examples I can name the companies the later movers overtook (e.g. Google -> Yahoo/Alta Vista, Apple -> Blackberry, Facebook -> Myspace), but I think the first time I bought something online…

Amazon was a leap up from other online booksellers, just as Google was a leap up from other search engines... Lyft isn't a leap up from Uber. But I do stick with Lyft because Uber's been so cold.

What other online booksellers were there in 1995? I don't remember any.

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I'm currently in the Triangle area in North Carolina, there seems to be plenty of lyft users here.

This seems to be survivorship bias. Since you like lyft, you are more likely to be friends with people who also like lyft. OR to phrase it better, you and people who like lyft have more in common.

I'm visiting the area, and know little to no people here. I downloaded both uber and lyft, and so far have had far more success getting a lyft than an uber.

Re: Lyft says its revenue is growing nearly 3x faster than Uber’s

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I remember when Uber was clearly dominant. That was over a year go. For the past two conferences I've been to, including the one I'm at now(Ember Conf), EVERYONE has been using Lyft. It really is possible for a company to piss off enough people.

Google wasn't the first search engine... Apple didn't sell the first smartphone or tablet... Facebook wasn't the first social media site... Amazon wasn't the first to sell shit online... And Lyft wasn't the first ride-sharing app. Maybe being first to market is overrated?

This may be semantics but technically Lyft was the first to come up with the Uberx model of anyone becoming a driver.

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Anecdotally I haven't found this HN-wide negative sentiment of Uber (and narrative of its decline) to be shared anywhere else in the US. My extended family in the southeast and northeast US is familiar with Uber (without using it), but they haven't heard of Lyft. When I lived in Chicago, most of my peers had Lyft, but Uber was the always the first choice. Does anyone else see the same trend? The bay area certainly se…

True. Here in Europe in general, Lyft is uknown, but, at least here in Greece, everyone sings the praises of Uber, in comparison to the terrible service normal taxis provide. HN is not only a regional but also an ideological bubble, and it seems to hate companies that are doing well for themselves (except Apple and Musk-affiliated gigs).

> at least here in Greece, everyone sings the praises of Uber, in comparison to the terrible service normal taxis provide

There. It's not only in Greece, it's pretty much all over the world except a few places.

I know, the taxi drivers work hard, but the standards before Uber were really abysmal. Why? Because monopoly.

For the young ones and those with poor memory, the overcharging, taking 5 times the normal length "shortcuts", geographically challenged, downright scammy taxi drivers were a norm. In the States, they also expect a tip of 20% for deigning to do their job; one thing I never understood in Boston is how it is physically possible to accumulate so many fumes in a modern car. In places where the taxis are in demand, they wouldn't bother picking you up.

Today the horrible ones still exist, of course, but their number is dwindling.

Re: Lyft says its revenue is growing nearly 3x faster than Uber’s

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Everyone I know gets an "uber" regardless of whether they're using Lyft, Uber, or any other ride sharing service which is not a taxi.

Great! Now let's get out there and educate, because Uber is truly a disgusting organization at the top. I am sure once they have died, their engineers can find spots at Lyft as something will need to pick up the void, so no need to worry there Uber devs reading this.

What do you have against Khosrowshahi?
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