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Re: Fixing impostor syndrome in coding interviews

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What would you do instead? Everybody knows interviews don't work that well but nobody has any better ideas.

1) give a 3 day coding challenge to gauge the candidate real potential, and 2) hire fast, fire fast.

Who's going to consent to doing three _days_ of work?

Re: Fixing impostor syndrome in coding interviews

#72

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What would you do instead? Everybody knows interviews don't work that well but nobody has any better ideas.

1) give a 3 day coding challenge to gauge the candidate real potential, and 2) hire fast, fire fast.

I’m barely willing to take an online coding test for one job when I know historically for me, if I get submitted for 10 jobs by a recruiter, I’m likely to get three offers, take myself out of the running for 6, and only have one company that’s not interested. Why would I ever spend three days on a coding challenge.

And I’m a good test taker and interviewer.

Re: Fixing impostor syndrome in coding interviews

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Why do people study for interviews? I feel like if I have to study for an interview, then I’m clearly not good enough for the position. Is this common in other fields of study?

Interviewing is a different skillset than most development positions ever use; you can be a good developer but a terrible interviewer. You'd be great at the job, but you get rejected in favor of someone else that put some more practice into skills that are applicable to interviewing (i.e. whiteboard programming, working without reference material, etc). You go into the interview, having not studied. Your twin studied…

I never understood why people act like interviewing is an innate talent and not a learned skill like everything else.

Re: Fixing impostor syndrome in coding interviews

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It wasn't really 'trivia'. It was several hours of difficult problem solving without reference material, given access only to a whiteboard and a judge. The studying that would have led to a success: * Memorizing a significant amount of the interview's programming language. Since there is no reference material, you really need to know it. No standard library reference to help you out. * Solving enough algorithms and d…

> It wasn't really 'trivia'. It was several hours of difficult problem solving without reference material, given access only to a whiteboard and a judge Even more irrelevant with today's access to Google, StackOverflow and alike. I've done my share of learning by heart pages of demonstration for some obscure quantum physic model, puking it the day of the test, and then forgetting about it. It the company is looking f…

The way to solve a problem you've not encountered is usually to break it up into smaller problems you do know how to solve, and it's easy to see how some rote learning could help here.

Re: Fixing impostor syndrome in coding interviews

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I'd say that if you're in a technical interview with a non-technical manager, you may've chosen the wrong company to interview with. And if it's a non-technical portion of the interview and you have trouble making yourself understood (to a manager), you're back to the "it's not a good fit" conclusion.

It was definitively the "technical interview with a non-technical manager", and yes, I do agree with you, but it's difficult to judge companies beforehand.

Fair enough; unfortunate that they put you in that situation.

Re: Fixing impostor syndrome in coding interviews

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Why do people study for interviews? I feel like if I have to study for an interview, then I’m clearly not good enough for the position. Is this common in other fields of study?

I have to study my own resume before an interview and be prepared to describe my past accomplishments in a distinct non rambling way.

There are some things I do in programming that are such habits that I have hard time explaining it.

If someone gave you an English test (assuming you are a native English speaker), and gave you a sentence to correct:

I love that antique green big wonderful car that is always parked at the end of the street.

It probably would sound wrong to you but could you explain why? (http://www.gingersoftware.com/content/grammar-rules/adjectiv...)

Re: Fixing impostor syndrome in coding interviews

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1) give a 3 day coding challenge to gauge the candidate real potential, and 2) hire fast, fire fast.

I’m barely willing to take an online coding test for one job when I know historically for me, if I get submitted for 10 jobs by a recruiter, I’m likely to get three offers, take myself out of the running for 6, and only have one company that’s not interested. Why would I ever spend three days on a coding challenge. And I’m a good test taker and interviewer.

Yeah, hour-long coding challenges and taking a day or two off of work are bad enough.

Re: Fixing impostor syndrome in coding interviews

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1) give a 3 day coding challenge to gauge the candidate real potential, and 2) hire fast, fire fast.

Who's going to consent to doing three _days_ of work?

Most of the candidate of my past job who passed the initial non-technical interview with my former manager, over 2 years, that was probably a dozen people, leading to 3 hires.

Re: Fixing impostor syndrome in coding interviews

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1) give a 3 day coding challenge to gauge the candidate real potential, and 2) hire fast, fire fast.

I’m barely willing to take an online coding test for one job when I know historically for me, if I get submitted for 10 jobs by a recruiter, I’m likely to get three offers, take myself out of the running for 6, and only have one company that’s not interested. Why would I ever spend three days on a coding challenge. And I’m a good test taker and interviewer.

we're probably not at the same pay-grade / level of specialization.

Re: Fixing impostor syndrome in coding interviews

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Who's going to consent to doing three _days_ of work?

Most of the candidate of my past job who passed the initial non-technical interview with my former manager, over 2 years, that was probably a dozen people, leading to 3 hires.

Personally I think being willing to do such a thing is a sign of desperation.
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